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Re: Grokipedia is the antithesis of Wikipedia

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I've been reading a lot of Don Delillo lately and so I wanted to see how Grokipedia page on him fares. I found the "Critiques of elitism" section and noticed this sentence: "Reviews of Mao II (1991), for instance, highlighted the novel's focus on a performance artist protagonist as emblematic of this tendency, with detractors accusing DeLillo of prioritizing esoteric concerns over relatable human experiences, thereby…

Well it is only version v0.2

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Re: Grokipedia is the antithesis of Wikipedia

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"Can be" does a lot of heavy lifting here. LLMs have not proven their reliability anywhere afaik.

Neither have humans. On Wikipedia humans are worse than unreliable, they're deliberately trying to deceive you. But LLMs can be improved.

I think humans can also improve. I’m not sure I agree that LLMs have as big a potential as the hype-train would like..

Re: Grokipedia is the antithesis of Wikipedia

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Its' entire (stated) raison d'etre is that wikipedia is biased and wrong, so let's swap the question and instead ask for evidence of wikipedia sticking to wrong edits. If not, then grokipedia must exist for some other reason. Edit: Of course edit spamming/concerted efforts can affect wikipedia, but I'd rather that possibility than the entire thing be edit controlled by a person with an endless string of scrupulous be…

Do you really believe, Elon is watching over all Grokipedia articles and edits them as he pleases? And, to engage in your whataboutism, it’s not that Wikipedia is inherently publishing wrong facts. It’s about their editors omitting inconvenient facts about their favourite political people. Here’s a paper about how the (German) articles of ruling party members are usually shorter than those of the opposing parties. Cr…

No. But do I believe he directs engineers to lobotomise grok everytime it frames reality in a way he dislikes? Absolutely. And do I believe that grok is used to output grokipedia? Also yes.

Re: Grokipedia is the antithesis of Wikipedia

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I have not heard of the biased prompt and since prompts are constantly refined, how do you know it's still in use? But I found this analysis interest... https://www.promptfoo.dev/blog/grok-4-political-bias/ *Our measurements show that: Grok is more right leaning than most other AIs, but it's still left of center. GPT 4.1 is the most left-leaning AI, both in its responses and in its judgement of others. Surprisingly,…

That study is hilarious. I can only assume the anuthors are being deliberately obtuse about “shared training data”. The policies listed have widespread public support, so it would seem quite unremarkable that the training data would reflect that stance. > Despite their differences, we found numerous questions where all four models agreed within narrow margins. Remarkably, the vast majority of these agreements lean le…

agreement on raising the minimum wage is suspect because its a controversial econ position and presumably some form of UBI or 'negative income tax' is a much better alternative which would have the redistributive effects of a higher minimum wage without the 'tariff' downsides. like we have recently heard why its a very bad idea to artificially raise prices but apparently we are unable to extend this analysis to the minimum wage.

Re: Grokipedia is the antithesis of Wikipedia

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If he really lied so badly they could have just broadcast those lies and held the moral high ground, but they didn't. They had to make things up (not "editing down", they spliced together sentences 50 minutes apart and hid what they did). That should be a huge reality check for you. How do you even know that any of your opinions about Trump are true? You're getting them from the kind of people who fake videos of him.…

You're clutching this complaint about editorialization like a soccer player faking an injury but facts don't care about your feelings: Trump's speech wasn't just incendiary as fuck (I've listened to it in whole), it did incite a violent mob that broke into the capitol and chanted "Hang Mike Pence! Hang Mike Pence!" as they carried a hastily constructed noose and gallows around capitol hill. Meanwhile, there is no fac…

Indeed.

"Closed as per WP:SNOW. There is no indication whatsoever that there is consensus to change the status of the BBC as a generally reliable source, neither based on the above discussion nor based on this RfC".

Wikipedians know a troll when they see one.

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