At a glance, that looks like worse than merely the negligence of using a new technology. The whole point of 3D printing is that the material is moldable when hot but rigid when it cools. And people really should be aware that engines get hot.
A Cozy Mk IV light aircraft crashed after 3D-printed part was weakened by heat
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Re: A Cozy Mk IV light aircraft crashed after 3D-printed part was weakened by heat
#32Re: A Cozy Mk IV light aircraft crashed after 3D-printed part was weakened by heat
#33https://duckduckgo.com/?q=plastic+air+induction+elbow&ia=ima...
so, if you were thinking "who would use a 3D-printed part", remember that it may otherwise also have been made with some liquid material, but using a mold, and perhaps two parts using a mold that are joined with re-heating etc. - and now it no longer sounds so outlandish.
Re: A Cozy Mk IV light aircraft crashed after 3D-printed part was weakened by heat
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
Lower, according to the report "Two samples from the air induction elbow were subjected to testing, using a heat-flux differential scanning calorimeter, to determine their glass transition temperature. The measured glass transition temperature for the first sample was 52.8°C, and 54.0°C for the second sample" Yeah, they might have used ABS-CF filament, but unless they got it from a good brand that uses good resin and…
Some manufacturers fudge the Tg. Polymaker Polylite ABS has a claimed Tg of 101°C but the HDT curve clearly shows it starting to lose strength at 50°C, for example.
Re: A Cozy Mk IV light aircraft crashed after 3D-printed part was weakened by heat
#35I wonder what material it was printed with. edit: It was ABS-CF, which shouldn't be used under stress long-term in higher temperatures than maybe 65-70°C, or lower depending on the blend.
CF-ABS > An alternative construction method for the air induction elbow, shown in the Cozy Mk IV plans, is a lamination of four layers of bi-directional glassfibre cloth with epoxy resin. The epoxy resin specified for the laminate has a glass transition temperature of 84°C, after the finished part has been post-cured. The aircraft owner stated that as the glass transition temperature listed for the CF-ABS material wa…
This seems very low for the kinds of epoxy I've used. I wonder if the manufacturer specs are highly conservative? Or maybe the material has a shortened lifespan with even moderate temperatures?
I was thinking about the ABS in the article and wondering if I would have made the same mistake. Close to every car manufactured today has plastic intakes, usually bolted right on top of the engine. The incoming air should help keep it cool, especially on aircraft. Maybe it was the radiant heat from a nearby cylinder that melted it?
Re: A Cozy Mk IV light aircraft crashed after 3D-printed part was weakened by heat
#36This might be Darwin Award eligible!
Re: A Cozy Mk IV light aircraft crashed after 3D-printed part was weakened by heat
#37This is the mechanical equivalent of vibe coding. 3D printing itself isn't exactly to blame but the negligence of the company that created and sold this part and omitted it's use from an inspection. Just because a part has the shape of an engineered part does not make it compatible, strong, safe, and fit for purpose. This part could have likely been fine if it used a different material such as Ultem.
Re: A Cozy Mk IV light aircraft crashed after 3D-printed part was weakened by heat
#38At a glance, that looks like worse than merely the negligence of using a new technology. The whole point of 3D printing is that the material is moldable when hot but rigid when it cools. And people really should be aware that engines get hot.
Re: A Cozy Mk IV light aircraft crashed after 3D-printed part was weakened by heat
#39The part was claimed to be ABS-CF. UK AAIB tested the part and found it to have a Tg of approximately 53C. The Tg of ABS is far higher, around 100C. I suspect that the part may have been accidentally printed with PLA-CF (which has a Tg of approximately 55C.) The original part was fiberglass/epoxy with the epoxy having a Tg of 84C.
Re: A Cozy Mk IV light aircraft crashed after 3D-printed part was weakened by heat
#40I did a quick search and found that many plastics are governed by ISO 11357 test standard [1]. Some of the plastics I have worked with used this standard.
A spec sheet for that material is here [2].
[1]: https://www.iso.org/standard/83904.html
[2]: https://um-support-files.ultimaker.com/materials/1.75mm/tds/...