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RAM is so expensive, Samsung won't even sell it to Samsung

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Re: RAM is so expensive, Samsung won't even sell it to Samsung

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Post by kotaKat »

sneak wrote: post #69
kotaKat wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, as a frontline underpaid rural IT employee with no way to move outward from where I currently live, show me where I’m gonna put $5k a year into this budget out of my barren $55k/year salary. (And, mind you - this apparently is “more” than the local average by only around $10-15k.) I’m struggling to buy hardware already as it is, and all these prices have basically fucked me out of everything . I’m riding rigs…

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Oh. I’m not allowed to own a home computer to try to further my own learning and education and knowledge then.

Guess I’ll go fuck myself now then.

Re: RAM is so expensive, Samsung won't even sell it to Samsung

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Post by jfindper »

sneak wrote: post #25
nickjj wrote: post #18

I'm running a box I put together in 2014 with an i5-4460 (3.2ghz), 16 GB of RAM, GeForce 750ti, first gen SSD, ASRock H97M Pro4 motherboard with a reasonable PSU, case and a number of fans. All of that parted out at the time was $700. I've never been more fearful of components breaking than current day. With GPU and now memory prices being crazy, I hope I never have to upgrade. I don't know how but the box is still g…

Am I crazy for thinking that anyone using computers for doing their job and making their income should have a $5k/year computer hardware budget at a minimum ? I’m not saying to do what I do and buy a $7k laptop and a $15k desktop every year but compared to revenue it seems silly to be worrying about a few thousand dollars per year delta. I buy the best phones and desktops money can buy, and upgrade them often, becaus…

>I’m not saying to do what I do and buy a $7k laptop and a $15k desktop every year

>I buy the best phones and desktops money can buy

Sick man! Awesome, you spend 1/3 of the median US salary on a laptop and desktop every year. That's super fucking cool! Love that for you.

Anyways, please go brag somewhere else. You're rich, you shouldn't need extra validation from an online forum.

Re: RAM is so expensive, Samsung won't even sell it to Samsung

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Post by moregrist »

toss1 wrote: post #26
shevy-java wrote: post #16

AI companies must compensate us for this outrage. A few hours ago I looked at the RAM prices. I bought some DDR4, 32GB only, about a year or two ago. I kid you not - the local price here is now 2.5 times as it was back in 2023 or so, give or take. I want my money back, OpenAI!

Yup. And even more outrageous is the power grid upgrades they are demanding. If they need the power grid upgraded to handle the load for their data centers, they should pay 100% of the cost for EVERY part of every upgrade needed for the whole grid, just as a new building typically pays to upgrade the town road accessing it. Making ordinary ratepayers pay even a cent for their upgrades is outrageous. I do not know why…

Usually the narrative for externalizing these kinds of costs is that the investment will result in lots of jobs in the upgrade area.

Sometimes that materializes.

Here the narrative is almost the opposite: pay for our expensive infrastructure and we’ll take all your jobs.

It’s a bit mind boggling. One wonders how many friends our SV AI barons will have at the end of the day.

Re: RAM is so expensive, Samsung won't even sell it to Samsung

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Post by londons_explore »

rafaelmn wrote: post #53

Apple is going to be even more profitable in the consumer space because of RAM prices ? I feel like they are the only player to have the supply chain locked down enough to not get caught off guard, have good prices locked in enough in advance and suppliers not willing to antagonize such a big customer by backing out of a deal.

Apple software typically seems to give a better user experience in less RAM in both desktop and mobile.

For the last 10+ years apples iPhones have shipped with about half the ram of a flagship android for example.

Re: RAM is so expensive, Samsung won't even sell it to Samsung

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Post by forinti »

nickjj wrote: post #18

I'm running a box I put together in 2014 with an i5-4460 (3.2ghz), 16 GB of RAM, GeForce 750ti, first gen SSD, ASRock H97M Pro4 motherboard with a reasonable PSU, case and a number of fans. All of that parted out at the time was $700. I've never been more fearful of components breaking than current day. With GPU and now memory prices being crazy, I hope I never have to upgrade. I don't know how but the box is still g…

You can still get brand new generic motherboards for old CPUs.

I swapped out old ASUS MBs for an i3-540 and an Athlon II X4 with brand new motherboards.

They are quite cheaper than getting a new kit, so I guess that's the market they cater to: people who don't need an upgrade but their MBs gave in.

You can get these for US$20-US$30.

Re: RAM is so expensive, Samsung won't even sell it to Samsung

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Post by jfindper »

kotaKat wrote: post #91
sneak wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Oh. I’m not allowed to own a home computer to try to further my own learning and education and knowledge then. Guess I’ll go fuck myself now then.

They're just using this comment section to brag about how well off they are, I wouldn't worry too much. They're completely out of touch.

Re: RAM is so expensive, Samsung won't even sell it to Samsung

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Post by mitthrowaway2 »

sgerenser wrote: post #56
mitthrowaway2 wrote: post #39

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Yes? I think that's crazy. I just maxed out my new Thinkpad with 96 GB of RAM and a 4 TB SSD and even at today's prices, it still came in at just about $2k and should run smoothly for many years. Prices are high but they're not that high, unless you're buying the really big GPUs.

Where can you buy a new Thinkpad with 96GB and 4TB SSD for $2K? Prices are looking quite a bit higher than that for the P Series, at least on Lenovo.com in the U.S. And I don't see anything other than the P Series that lets you get 96GB of RAM.

You have to configure it with the lowest-spec SSD and then replace that with an aftermarket 4 TB SSD at around $215. The P14s I bought last week, with that and the 8 GB Nvidia GPU, came to a total of USD $2150 after taxes, including the SSD. Their sale price today is not quite as good as it was last week but it's still in that ballpark; with the 255H CPU and iGPU and a decent screen, and you can get the Intel P14s for $2086 USD. That actually becomes $1976 because you get $110 taken off at checkout. Then throw in the aftermarket SSD and it'll be around $2190. And if you log in as a business customer you'll get another couple percent off as well.

The AMD model P14s, with 96 GB and upgraded CPU and the nice screen and linux, still goes for under $1600 at checkout, which becomes $1815 when you add the aftermarket SSD upgrade.

It's still certainly a lot to spend on a laptop if you don't need it, but it's a far cry from $5k/year.

Re: RAM is so expensive, Samsung won't even sell it to Samsung

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Post by prmoustache »

nickjj wrote: post #18

I'm running a box I put together in 2014 with an i5-4460 (3.2ghz), 16 GB of RAM, GeForce 750ti, first gen SSD, ASRock H97M Pro4 motherboard with a reasonable PSU, case and a number of fans. All of that parted out at the time was $700. I've never been more fearful of components breaking than current day. With GPU and now memory prices being crazy, I hope I never have to upgrade. I don't know how but the box is still g…

As other mentionned, there are plenty of refurbished stuff and second hand parts that there isn't any risk of finding yourself having to buy something at insane prices if your computer was to die today.

If you don't need a GPU for gaming you can get a decent computer with an i5, 16GB of ram and an nvme drive for usd 50. I bought one a few weeks ago ago.

Re: RAM is so expensive, Samsung won't even sell it to Samsung

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Post by the__alchemist »

nickjj wrote: post #18

I'm running a box I put together in 2014 with an i5-4460 (3.2ghz), 16 GB of RAM, GeForce 750ti, first gen SSD, ASRock H97M Pro4 motherboard with a reasonable PSU, case and a number of fans. All of that parted out at the time was $700. I've never been more fearful of components breaking than current day. With GPU and now memory prices being crazy, I hope I never have to upgrade. I don't know how but the box is still g…

Man, it was just GPU for a while. But same boat. I regret not getting the 4090 for $1600 direct from Nvidia. "That's too much for a video card", and got the 4080 instead. I dread the day when I need to replace it.

Re: RAM is so expensive, Samsung won't even sell it to Samsung

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Post by cobalt60 »

fransje26 wrote: post #84
lkramer wrote: post #9

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To be honest, this actually sounds kinda healthy.

Yeah, makes absolute sense. A bit like Toyota putting a GM engine in their car, because the Toyota engine division is too self-centered, focusing to much on efficiency.

You mean toyota putting bmw engine (supra). Your statement is contradicting as Toyota has TRD, which focuses on the track performance. They just couldn't keep up with the straight six perf+reliability when comparing to their own 2jz
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