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The submitted site seems to be having trouble keeping up with the referrals from Hacker News, judging by its response time. (And that is amusing for a site called "refer.ly" that is all about user referrals. The site still needs upgrading to work at scale.) The question is "I want you to explain something to me. Pick any topic you want: a hobby you have, a book you’ve read, a project you worked on–anything. You’ll ha…

I have often thought we should have a hash-tag means of labelling some comments or threads. For example the above FAQ would be #hiringbestpractise (or possibly #tokenadulthomerun ). Then this thread would be found if anyone searched HN for that tag, and indeed would rank top of all #hiringbestpractise tagged comments.

Then tokenadult could simply point people to the hashtag page and say enter the right phrase.

I for one would value seeing the top rated comments from HN on any range of given subjects, even several years back

#justthinkingoutloufd

Re: The Most Revealing Job Interview Question

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> Pick any topic you want: a hobby you have, a book you’ve read, a project you worked on–anything. Hopefully there's more guidance than this, because I feel like I'd freeze up and start "um"ing for five minutes trying to decide the best concept to explain. Maybe this says more about me than the exercise, though...

That's exactly the point. The ideal candidate presumably has a number of ideas ready to go - the question is very similar to other interview questions and you should already be preparing to talk about your hobbies and interests. The question ensures the candidate can think quickly, pick a topic they know about, and talk about it coherently. If you can't do that, you're probably not a good fit for the team. Therefore,…

I assure you I can ably speak extemporaneously about anything I grok in technical detail when required, but I am speaking about the simple act of choosing which thing to talk about.

Re: The Most Revealing Job Interview Question

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> I will ask a question early in the 5 minutes that is a complete tangent and has little to do with their goal. A star candidate will politely refuse to go down this rat hole and insist that we stay on topic.

These types of "trick" questions don't allude to anything. A star candidate also wants to respect their interviewer and refusing to answer a question can be seen as disrespectful.

Granted, the characteristic you're trying to surface is a fantastic one (saying no) - but this is not a surefire way of discovering it.

Re: The Most Revealing Job Interview Question

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That is great advice on how to hire mindreaders. While the first idea (explaining something concisely) is defensible, the second (testing if people will 'stay on topic' when deliberately asked about something else) is just crazy.

I put a piece of paper on the desk in front of them. It has the number "3" with a big red X through it. Then I hold a baseball bat in a threatening position and tell them to give me an integer between 1 and 10.

This technique works wonders, as I'm able to filter out the 90% of candidates who are losers.

Spoiler: the right answer is 8.

Re: The Most Revealing Job Interview Question

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That's pretty unfairly tilted in favor of the company. You seem to be assuming that the company's goal is to find a reason to reject someone. That's not correct. If anything, it's tilted in favor of candidates that have the same hobbies as interviewers.

No, my assumption is that a potential employer has no right to know anything about me outside of professional qualifications or what may raise legal issues (convictions, credit rating [iffy], or conflicts of interest). My personal life is strictly off-limits until I get to know them. Look, I know it sounds confrontational, and I don't go into interviews expecting a hostile environment. But I also don't go into interv…

Personality is certainly a legal deciding factor in hiring someone for a position in a company, especially in at-will employment states.

It is illegal for a company to not hire on undue reasons such as race, religion, political affiliations, etc., but you are entering into an employment relationship, and it is not unfair to understand more about the person you are paying to work with.

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The post is apparently a marketing effort. The interview question is pretty old. If it is that effective as claimed, it would have been known and applied widely. (Then, candidates will prepare for the question and it is not revealing at all.)

Also, claiming any interview question as MOST revealing is simply simple-minded.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

An important thing to keep in mind is that it's not that you are innately incapable of answering the question, you just may not be able to do so presently, which is why it's a great question. People who are in a rut, or carrying a lot of baggage, (among others) are going to have trouble answering it, and they're probably also going to have trouble adjusting to a new position. Not to say that you are, but it would reg…

You're saying that when someone freezes up in an interview it predicts that they will have trouble adjusting to a new position. Simply put, why should I believe that? Can you convince me that this is not simply like any pseudodiagnostic personality test or tea-leaf reading?

"pseudodiagnostic personality test"

What else do you think an interview is?

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Hmm, I'm not sure I like the idea of intentionally trying to steer the candidate off on a tangent. It feels like a trap. In an interview, the interviewer literally has all the power, and saying "no" or refusing to answer a question posed by the interviewer seems rather difficult. This would be doubly hard for me since I like to teach (both my parents are teachers and I love to explain things to people so that they ca…

"Don't worry about it. It's not important to the objective of getting you to understand X."

Re: The Most Revealing Job Interview Question

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That is great advice on how to hire mindreaders. While the first idea (explaining something concisely) is defensible, the second (testing if people will 'stay on topic' when deliberately asked about something else) is just crazy.

I put a piece of paper on the desk in front of them. It has the number "3" with a big red X through it. Then I hold a baseball bat in a threatening position and tell them to give me an integer between 1 and 10. This technique works wonders, as I'm able to filter out the 90% of candidates who are losers. Spoiler: the right answer is 8.

+1 would read again.

OP is performing cargo-cult interviewing.

Hiring is a process. You just can't know someone after your 1/8th segment of an interview day for the candidate. The hires I've made have been with people I've known for years and have a back story of execution. This kind of "mind-hacking" interview style is masturbatorial. I have worked with too many great minds who would fail in this situation to pull a stunt like this.

OP also readily admits that he's from microsoft. This kind of crap is a part of the culture that has been ruining that company. Anyone who takes this advice should make sure they understand "caveat emptor."

Re: The Most Revealing Job Interview Question

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post #82

The submitted site seems to be having trouble keeping up with the referrals from Hacker News, judging by its response time. (And that is amusing for a site called "refer.ly" that is all about user referrals. The site still needs upgrading to work at scale.) The question is "I want you to explain something to me. Pick any topic you want: a hobby you have, a book you’ve read, a project you worked on–anything. You’ll ha…

What kinds of jobs do those papers refer to? How relevant is this research for engineering positions?

The main article tokenadult is talking about is the Schmidt & Hunter paper: "The conclusions in this article apply mainly to the middle 62% of jobs in the U.S. economy in terms of complexity. [...] This category includes skilled blue collar jobs and mid-level white collar jobs, such as upper level clerical and lower level administrative jobs."

The article says that the most common measure of employee ability in general, and presumably for the articles used in this meta-study, was the amount of money each employee earned. Presumably then most of these employees were doing routinized or semi-routinized labor that would lend itself to piecewise compensation. The above quote seems to be consistent with this interpretation. They are also only looking at employees of huge corporations, where each person is one of dozens or hundreds of others doing more or less the same thing.

So is this meta-study relevant to hiring programmers? Yes and no. Probably the measures that were found to have more validity are still going to have more validity than the ones that were found to have less validity. But at the same time using only these tests would be too simplistic; they were designed to predict which factory workers were likely to steal from the company or slack off. And while these are still important factors to consider, the challenges of a modern startup go way above and beyond this.

Essentially this research was designed mainly for situations where you're trying to scale up a large industrial process where you can make money by arbitraging the difference between the output of the average employee and the amount it costs to pay them. The closer you get toward environments where it's essential that each person contribute things that are unique and novel, the less it makes sense to rely on these sorts of hiring tools.

In short, I would say that the above research neither supports nor disconfirms the advice of the original blog post. Of course you could make the case (and maybe tokenadult believes this?) that employers should make hiring decisions mainly by using a series of multiple choice tests that have been empirically validated, but that's an entirely different argument.

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