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Valve reveals it’s the architect behind a push to bring Windows games to Arm

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Re: Valve reveals it’s the architect behind a push to bring Windows games to Arm

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Post by lmm »

cromka wrote: post #379
raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #311

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That’s not how Big Enterprise works. “No one ever got fired for buying Microsoft”. Can you imagine the reputational risk of whoever decided that when something goes wrong they didn’t go with Microsoft? No one is going to trust a gaming company when it comes to their entire IT infrastructure. Besides businesses have an all in one contract with Microsoft for Windows, Active Directory, probably SQL Server, Office, a cer…

I don't think they'd target businesses. I think they could totally ride the current gamers "Switching to Linux instead migrating to Windows 11" wave. Those users would definitely appreciate better compatibility with Windows apps.

> I think they could totally ride the current gamers "Switching to Linux instead migrating to Windows 11" wave. Those users would definitely appreciate better compatibility with Windows apps.

Sure, but how much are they realistically going to pay for it?

I guess improving compatibility with general-purpose Windows apps might help them sell a few more Steam Machines, but it's hard to think that it's really going to move the needle.

Re: Valve reveals it’s the architect behind a push to bring Windows games to Arm

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Post by shevy-java »

Unless I misunderstand something (not quite awake fully yet...), that's good right? Aka "play games on any platform" as goal. A bit with the inofficial goal of scummvm, to rescue old commercial games from vanishing for young, future generations.

Re: Valve reveals it’s the architect behind a push to bring Windows games to Arm

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Post by lmm »

chaosharmonic wrote: post #175
echelon wrote: post #34

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That's a geopolitical question. ARM is Western RISC is China / Eastern Valve is just trying to outflank Microsoft here. And they're doing a magnificent job of it. Microsoft has on at least half a dozen occasions tried to draw a box around Valve to control their attempts to grow beyond the platform. And moreover to keep gaming gravitas on Windows. Windows Store, ActiveX, Xbox, major acquisitions ... they've failed to…

> RISC is China/Eastern RISC-V was developed at UC Berkeley. It's roughly as Western as West realistically gets, short of being made in Hawaii. > That's a geopolitical question Sure, but that's not actually about where RISC-V is from. It's that it's a purposely open platform -- so much so that its governing body literally moved to Switzerland. The reason it's a geopolitical question is more to do with what we did to…

> RISC-V was developed at UC Berkeley.

That doesn't matter any more than, IDK, the first maid cafes being American. China is where RISC-V is getting adopted, they're the ones who are running with it.

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Post by varenc »

torginus wrote: post #328
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Speaking of Anti-Cheat and secure boot, you need SB for Battlefield 6. The game won't start without it. So it's happening! I don't hate the lack of cheating compared to older Battlefield games if I am going to be honest.

I remember reading that Microsoft is trying to crack down on kernel level anti-cheats. Just like anti-virus, they mess with the operating system on a deep level, redirecting/intercepting API calls, sometimes on undocumented and unstable internal APIs. Not only does this present a huge security risk, it can break existing software and the OS itself. These anti-cheats tend not to be written by people intimately familia…

Apple has gone a similar way with effectively killing kernel extensions for the same reasons. In theory all the kernel extensions use cases have been replaced with "System Extensions" but of course not the same.

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Post by kasey_junk »

bigstrat2003 wrote: post #264
usefulcat wrote: post #261

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It’s definitely more than just private ownership. In fact I’d say that’s the least part of it. Look at all the horror stories about businesses that were bought by PE firms; those are all privately held too.

Private ownership is a necessary, but not sufficient, condition to have a business which has a healthy relationship with its customers. You also need the owners to be people of reasonably good character who understand that the best way to run a business is a win-win approach on both sides, not people who see nothing wrong with extracting maximum profit from the business no matter whom it hurts. The PE horror stories…

You hypothesis then is that there is not a _single_ public company that has a healthy relationship with its company? Not one, in the entire global public space?

When does this relationship with customers happen? Is it at the IPO? When they file the paperwork? When they contemplate going public for the first time? Or is it that any founder who might one day decide to contemplate going public was doomed to unhealthy customer relations from birth?

The obvious next thing we in society should do is abolish public equity as a concept as a customer protection mechanism?

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Post by cedws »

shmerl wrote: post #409
cedws wrote: post #378

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I don't use Linux on laptops or desktops, only servers. I've been through all that pain. The userland has a long way to go to be a good OS everyone can use.

You clearly didn't use Linux any time recently.

Nope, it still sucks. It's no good as an OS for general users. The average user has no idea what it even means to have an NVIDIA GPU, let alone be able to diagnose why their screen scaling is all fucked up or understand why they see stuff about 'killing child processes' when they press the power button.

Re: Valve reveals it’s the architect behind a push to bring Windows games to Arm

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Post by cedws »

shmerl wrote: post #408
cedws wrote: post #354

The best thing Valve could do is nuke Wayland/X11/Xwayland from orbit. Wayland is a mess that apps still don't support and doesn't work with NVIDIA GPUs. X11 is ancient and screen tears. Xwayland is the worst of both worlds.

No, thanks. That's the worst Android did, creating their own incompatible thing. We don't need another NIH like that.

Android is a much more successful platform than the Linux desktop.

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Post by shmerl »

cedws wrote: post #419
shmerl wrote: post #408

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No, thanks. That's the worst Android did, creating their own incompatible thing. We don't need another NIH like that.

Android is a much more successful platform than the Linux desktop.

And that only created a problem by making the impact of that rift worse. So we don't need even more of such effects. Ubuntu tried going there with Mir, but luckily they figured out it was a really bad idea in time.
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