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Re: Everyone in Seattle hates AI

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The thing that changed my view on LLMs was solo traveling for 6 months after leaving Microsoft. There were a lot of points on the trip where I was in a lot of trouble (severe food sickness, stolen items, missed flights) where I don't know how I would have solved those problems without chatGPT helping.

This is one of the most depressing things I have ever read on Hacker News. You claim to have become so de-actualized as a human being that you cannot fulfill the most basic items of Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs (food, health, personal security, shelter, transportation) without the aid of an LLM.

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Re: Everyone in Seattle hates AI

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From the article: > I wanted her take on Wanderfugl , the AI-powered map I've been building full-time. I can at least give you one piece of advice. Before you decide on a company or product name, take the time to speak it out loud so you can get a sense of how it sounds.

And if you manage to say it outloud, say it to someone else and ask them to spell it. If they can’t spell it, they can’t type it into the url bar.

Re: Everyone in Seattle hates AI

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I live in seattle and I love AI lol.

My main problem is that at this point, the value of entire collective creative output of humanity should go to the living not the select few.

IMHO AI companies should pay into some kind of UBI fund/ Sovergeign fund.

Time for capitalism to evolve, yo!

Re: Everyone in Seattle hates AI

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The thing that changed my view on LLMs was solo traveling for 6 months after leaving Microsoft. There were a lot of points on the trip where I was in a lot of trouble (severe food sickness, stolen items, missed flights) where I don't know how I would have solved those problems without chatGPT helping.

This is one of the most depressing things I have ever read on Hacker News. You claim to have become so de-actualized as a human being that you cannot fulfill the most basic items of Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs (food, health, personal security, shelter, transportation) without the aid of an LLM.

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Re: Everyone in Seattle hates AI

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I don't see it that way. Tabs, spaces, curly brace placement, Vim, Emacs, VSCode, etc are largely aesthetic choices with some marginal unproven cognitive implications. I find people mostly prefer what they are used to, and if your preference was so superior then how could so many people build fantastic software using the method you don't like? AI isn't like that. AI is a bunch of people telling me this product can do…

>AI is certainly not reliable enough for me to jeopardize the quality of my work by using it heavily. I mean this in sincerity, and not at all snarky, but - have you considered that you haven't used the tools correctly or effectively? I find that I can get what I need from chatbots (and refuse to call them AI until we have general AI just to be contrary) if I spend a couple of minutes considering constraints and bein…

AI is okay (not great) at generating low- to mid-skill code. If you are working in a high-skill software domain that requires pervasive state-of-the-art or first-principles implementation then AI produces consistently terrible code. It frequently is flatly incorrect about esoteric technical details that really matter.

It can't reason from first principles and there isn't training data for a lot of state-of-the-art computer science and code implementations. Nothing you can prompt will make it produce non-naive output because it doesn't have that capability.

AI works for a lot of things because, if we are honest, AI generated slop is replacing human generated slop. But not all software is slop and there are software domains where slop is not even an option.

Re: Everyone in Seattle hates AI

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I grew up in Norway and there's this idea in Europe of someone who breaks from corporate culture and hikes and camps a lot (called wandervogel in german). I also liked how when pronounced in Norwegian or Swedish it sounds like wander full. I like the idea of someone who is full of wander.

Same in Danish FWIW. In English, I’d pronounce it very similar to “wonderful”.

If OP dropped the g, it would be a MUCh better product name.

Re: Everyone in Seattle hates AI

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If there is a g in there I will pronounce a g there. I have some standards and that is one. Pronouncing every single letter.

> Pronouncing every single letter. Now I want to know how you pronounce words like: through, bivouac, and queue.

You don’t pronounce all the letters?

Re: Everyone in Seattle hates AI

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I’ve been an engineer for 20 years, for myself, small companies, and big tech, and now working for my own saas company. There are many valid critiques of AI, but “there’s not much there” isn’t one of them. To me, any software engineer who tries an LLM, shrugs and says “huh, that’s interesting” and then “gets back to work” is completely failing at their actual job, which is using technology to solve problems. Maybe AI…

> There are many valid critiques of AI, but “there’s not much there” isn’t one of them. I have solved more problems with tools like sed and awk, you know, actual tools, more than I’ve entered tokens into an LLM. Nobody seemed to give a fuck as long as the problem was solved. This it getting out of hand.

Just because you can solve problems with one class of tools doesn’t mean another class is pointless. A whole new class of problems just became solvable.
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