Is there no browser I can use without this AI trash jammed into it?
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Ecosia: The greenest AI is here
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Re: Ecosia: The greenest AI is here
#12Running an LLM by default when I open your site is the most energy-consuming thing a computer can do, and the thing consumers hate the most in 2025.
I love Kagi's implementation: by default it's disabled, you either have to add a question mark to the search, or click in the interface after searching to generate the summary.
Re: Ecosia: The greenest AI is here
#13Reminder that LLMs only(?) consume energy on the order of a few seconds of Netflix[1].
[1]: https://bsky.app/profile/simonwillison.net/post/3m6qdf5rffs2...
Re: Ecosia: The greenest AI is here
#14The greenest AI will be connected to district heat networks instead of being cooled with air or water. It isn't even faintly green when heat is treated as a byproduct instead of a co-benefit.
Re: Ecosia: The greenest AI is here
#15Running an LLM by default when I open your site is the most energy-consuming thing a computer can do, and the thing consumers hate the most in 2025.
I love Kagi's implementation: by default it's disabled, you either have to add a question mark to the search, or click in the interface after searching to generate the summary.
Yeah and you can set an option to disable the ? initiator too
Re: Ecosia: The greenest AI is here
#16The greenest AI will be connected to district heat networks instead of being cooled with air or water. It isn't even faintly green when heat is treated as a byproduct instead of a co-benefit.
Use AI as power source to power the industry!!! Let them live in a virtual world
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#17People in the comments seem confused about this with statements like “greenest AI is no AI” style comments. And well, obviously that’s true but it’s an apples to pears comparison.
Clearly Ecosia is pushing for “people want AI” _and_ we want to make it more ecofriendly. Taking away features from users altogether is not the right answer.
It’s like saying “cheapest car is no car”. It doesn’t solve the fundamental problem of “wanting a car”.
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#18Reminder that LLMs only(?) consume energy on the order of a few seconds of Netflix[1]. [1]: https://bsky.app/profile/simonwillison.net/post/3m6qdf5rffs2...
Netflix spending 240Wh for 1h of content just does not pass the smell test for me.
Today I can have ~8 people streaming from my Jellyfin instance which is a server that consumes about 35W, measured at the wall. That's ~5Wh per hour of content from me not even trying.
Re: Ecosia: The greenest AI is here
#19People in the comments seem confused about this with statements like “greenest AI is no AI” style comments. And well, obviously that’s true but it’s an apples to pears comparison. Clearly Ecosia is pushing for “people want AI” _and_ we want to make it more ecofriendly. Taking away features from users altogether is not the right answer. It’s like saying “cheapest car is no car”. It doesn’t solve the fundamental proble…
We don't have a problem of wanting AI though
Re: Ecosia: The greenest AI is here
#20Reminder that LLMs only(?) consume energy on the order of a few seconds of Netflix[1]. [1]: https://bsky.app/profile/simonwillison.net/post/3m6qdf5rffs2...
That's inference only, otherwise people would not be buulding nuclear reactors to power AI.