Well, Bun is MIT-licensed. So once they change the license and/or kill the project, the community can fork it easily.
Anthropic acquires Bun
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Re: Anthropic acquires Bun
#222Earlier quoted context omitted.
But how is another company that is also VC backed and losing money providing stability for Bun? How long before we hear about “Our Amazing Journey”? On the other hand, I would rather see someone like Bun have a successful exit where the founders seem to have started out with a passion project, got funding, built something out they were excited about and then exit than yet another AI company by non technical founders…
> But how is another company that is also VC backed and losing money providing stability for Bun? Reminds me of when Tron, the crypto company, bought BitTorrent.
The difference is that Tron is a scam and BitTorrent Inc was nothing special either.
Re: Anthropic acquires Bun
#223No strategic roadmap is ever going to tell you: "Build a $0-revenue JavaScript runtime and one day an AI company will acquire you"
Honestly that's probably the best play. Monetizing dev tools directly is a nightmare.
Re: Anthropic acquires Bun
#224Earlier quoted context omitted.
Probably about 95% of mine now. Much better than I could for the most part.
Weird, AI writes terrible code for me that would never pass a code review. I guess people have different standards for good code.
Hah. It can’t be “I need to spend more time to figure out how to use these tools better.” It is always “I’m just smarter than other people and have a higher standard.”
Re: Anthropic acquires Bun
#225What is the business model behind open source projects like bun? How can a company "aquire" it and why does it do that? In the article they write about the early days We raised a $7 million seed round Why do investors invest into people who build something that they give away for free?
The post mentions why - Bun eventually wanted to provide some sort of cloud-hosting saas product.
Everyone could offer a cloud-hosted saas product that involves bun, right?
Why invest into a company that has the additional burden of developing bun, why not in a company that does only the hosting?
Re: Anthropic acquires Bun
#226As someone who have been using Deno for the last few years, is there anything that Bun does better? Bun seems to use a different runtime (JSC) which is less tested than V8, which makes me assume it might perform worse in real-world tasks (maybe not anymore?). The last time I checked Bun's source code, it was... quite messy and spaghetti-like, plus Zig doesn't really offer many safety features, so it's not that hard t…
Search for pointer exceptions or core dumps on Bun's GitHub issues and you'll see why people (should) use Deno over Bun, if only because Rust is a way more safe language than Zig.
This is a non sequitur. Both Rust and Zig and any other language has the ability to end in an exception state. Whether it be kernel exception, pointer exception, or Rust's panic! - these things exist.
The reason why you see so many GitHub issues about it is because that's where the development is. Deno is great. Bun is great. These two things can both be great and we don't have to choose sides. Deno has it's use case. Bun has it's. Deno want's to be secure and require permissions. Bun just wants to make clean, simple, projects. This fight between Rust vs The World is getting old. Rust isn't any "safer" when Deno can panic too.
Re: Anthropic acquires Bun
#227Well, Bun is MIT-licensed. So once they change the license and/or kill the project, the community can fork it easily.
The point of this deal is that they do not need to change the license. Nobody will ever pay for Bun and now they don't have to force it.
Re: Anthropic acquires Bun
#228Earlier quoted context omitted.
If I had the cash, I could sell dollar bills for 50 cents and do a $7b run rate :)
If that was genuinely happening here - Anthropic were selling inference for less than the power and data center costs needed to serve those tokens - it would indeed be a very bad sign for their health. I don't think they're doing that. Estimates I've seen have their inference margin at ~60% - there's one from Morgan Stanley in this article, for example: https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-anthropic-billions-cl...
but those AI/ML researchers aka LLM optimization staff are not cheap. their salaries have skyrocketed, and some are being fought for like top-tier soccer stars and actors/actresses
Re: Anthropic acquires Bun
#229Can anyone provide some color around this: "I started porting esbuild's JSX & TypeScript transpiler from Go to Zig"? Hypothetical benefits include monolanguage for development, better interoperability with C and C++, no garbage collection, and better performance. What turned out to be realized and relevant here? Please, no speculation or language flames or wars.
Re: Anthropic acquires Bun
#230Earlier quoted context omitted.
The post mentions why - Bun eventually wanted to provide some sort of cloud-hosting saas product.
Everyone could offer a cloud-hosted saas product that involves bun, right? Why invest into a company that has the additional burden of developing bun, why not in a company that does only the hosting?
The standard argument here is that the maintainers of the core technology are likely to do a better job of hosting it because they have deeper understanding of how it all works.
There's also the trick Deno has been trying, where they can use their control of the core open source project to build features that uniquely benefit their cloud hosting: https://til.simonwillison.net/deno/deno-kv#user-content-the-...