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Apple Releases Open Weights Video Model

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Post by kstrauser »

Damogran6 wrote: post #99
GeekyBear wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One cool feature they added for deaf parents a few years ago was a notification when it detects a baby crying.

I also got notification on my apple watch, while being away from the house, that the homepod mini heard our fire alarm going off. A call home let us know that our son had set it off learning to reverse-sear his steak.

I live across the street from a fire station. Thank for you for diligence, little HomePod Mini, but I'm turning your notifications off now.

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Post by tdesilva »

M4v3R wrote: post #11
yegle wrote: post #10

Looking at text to video examples ( https://starflow-v.github.io/#text-to-video ) I'm not impressed. Those gave me the feeling of the early Will Smith noodles videos. Did I miss anything?

These are ~2 years behind state of the art from the looks of it. Still cool that they're releasing anything that's open for researchers to play with, but it's nothing groundbreaking.

The interesting part is they chose to go with a normalizing flow approach, rather than the industry standard diffusion model approach. Not sure why they chose this direction as I haven’t read the paper yet.

Re: Apple Releases Open Weights Video Model

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Post by sroussey »

kouteiheika wrote: post #29
mdrzn wrote: post #23

"VAE: WAN2.2-VAE" so it's just a Wan2.2 edit, compressed to 7B.

This doesn't necessarily mean that it's Wan2.2. People often don't train their own VAEs and just reuse an existing one, because a VAE isn't really what's doing the image generation part. A little bit more background for those who don't know what a VAE is (I'm simplifying here, so bear with me): it's essentially a model which turns raw RGB images into a something called a "latent space". You can think of it as a fancy…

Since you seem to know way more than I on the subject, can you explain the importance of video generation that is not diffusion based?

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Post by basilgohar »

devinprater wrote: post #6

Apple has a video understanding model too. I can't wait to find out what accessibility stuff they'll do with the models. As a blind person, AI has changed my life.

I'm only commenting because I absolutely love this thread. It's an insight into something I think most of us are quite (I'm going to say it...) blind to in our normal experiences with daily life, and I find immense value in removing my ignorance about such things.

Re: Apple Releases Open Weights Video Model

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Post by advisedwang »

gorgoiler wrote: post #98

It’s not really relevant to this release specifically but it irks me that, in general, an “open weights model” is like an “open source machine code” version of Microsoft Windows. Yes, I guess I have open access to view the thing I am about to execute! This Apple license is click wrap MIT with the rights, at least, to modify and redistribute the model itself. I suppose I should be grateful for that much openness, at l…

Great analogy.

To extend the analogy, "closed source machine code" would be like conventional SaaS. There's an argument that shipping me a binary I can freely use is at least better than only providing SaaS.

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Post by almosthere »

vjvjvjvjghv wrote: post #114
MyFirstSass wrote: post #102

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I highly doubt "pumping out bespoke apps all day" is possible yet besides 100% boilerplate, and when possible then no good for any other purpose than enshittifiying the web, and at that point not profitable because everyone can do it. I use AI daily as a senior coder for search and docs, and when used for prototyping you still need to be a senior coder to go from say 60% boilerplate to 100% finished app/site/whatever…

This is the same as the discussion about using Excel. Excel has its limitations, but it has enabled millions of people to do pretty sophisticated stuff without the help of “professionals”. Most of the stuff us tech people do is also basically some repetitive boilerplate. We just like to make things more complex than they need to be. I am always a little baffled why seemingly every little CRUD site that has at most 10…

The reality is too, that even if "what is acceptable" has not yet caught up to that guy working at Atlassian, polishing off a new field in Jira, people are using AI + Excel to manage their tasks EXACTLY the way their head works, not the way Jira works.

Yet we fail to see AI as a good thing but just as a jobs destroyer. Are we "better than" the people that used to fill toothpaste tubes manually until a machine was invented to replace them? They were just as mad when they got the pink slip.

Re: Apple Releases Open Weights Video Model

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Post by jjfoooo4 »

Mashimo wrote: post #18
M4v3R wrote: post #11

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These are ~2 years behind state of the art from the looks of it. Still cool that they're releasing anything that's open for researchers to play with, but it's nothing groundbreaking.

But 7b is rather small no? Are other open weight video models also this small? Can this run on a single consumer card?

My guess is that they will lean towards smaller models, and try to provide the best experience for running inference on device

Re: Apple Releases Open Weights Video Model

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Post by MyFirstSass »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #108
MyFirstSass wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I highly doubt "pumping out bespoke apps all day" is possible yet besides 100% boilerplate, and when possible then no good for any other purpose than enshittifiying the web, and at that point not profitable because everyone can do it. I use AI daily as a senior coder for search and docs, and when used for prototyping you still need to be a senior coder to go from say 60% boilerplate to 100% finished app/site/whatever…

Often the problem with tech people is they think software only exists for tech or for being sold to others from tech. Nothing I do is in the tech industry. It's all manufacturing and all the software is for in-house processes. Believe it or not, software is useful to everyone and no longer needs to originate from someone who only knows software.

I'm saying you can't do what you're saying without knowing code at the moment.

You didn't give any examples of the valuable bespoke apps that you are creating by the hour.

I simply don't believe you, and the arrogant salesy tone doesn't help.

Re: Apple Releases Open Weights Video Model

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Post by embedding-shape »

freedomben wrote: post #94
embedding-shape wrote: post #85

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What are you trying to point out with your graph in general? Write that basically. Usually graphs are added for some purpose, and assuming it's not purposefully misleading, verbalizing the purpose usually works well.

I might be an unusual case, but when I present graphs/charts it's not usually because I'm trying to point something out. It's usually a "here's some data, what conclusions do you draw from this?" and hopefully a discussion will follow. Example from recently: "Here is a recent survey of adults in the US and their religious identification, church attendance levels, self-reported "spirituality" level, etc. What do you t…

> and hopefully a discussion will follow.

Yeah, I think I misunderstood the context. I understood/assumed it to be for an article/post you're writing, where you have something you want to say in general/some point of what you're writing. But based on what you wrote now, it seems to be more about how to caption an image you're sending to a blind person in a conversation/discussion of some sort.

I guess at that point it'd be easier for them if you just share the data itself, rather than anything generated by the data, especially if there is nothing you want to point out.

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