India orders smartphone makers to preload state-owned cyber safety app

Post by Quarrel » Tue, Dec 02, 2025, 12:42 PM UTC

jack_tripper wrote: post #513

eitland wrote: post #508

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1. This is a wild exaggeration: There are lots of men walking in Ukrainian streets. 2. Why single out Ukraine here? Isn't this what any country does with people who don't appear for the draft? (Unless they can pay a doctor to diagnose them with bone spurs or something?)

> 1. There are lots of men walking in Ukrainian streets. With the right papers clearing them of draft obligations, sure. >2. Why single out Ukraine here? Because this is the best example right now that everyone knows and can somewhat relate to. Unless you happen to know any other western country currently doing this.

Post by sateesh » Tue, Dec 02, 2025, 12:45 PM UTC

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JumpCrisscross wrote: post #27

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> I will point out that India have the highest number of victims of cyber-fraud Based on what? > Another huge issue is unregulated loan apps You don't need to root everyone's phones to regulate financial crime. > Then there are obvious security issues with terrorism and organized crime India is building a centralised backdoor into every phone in the country. That's a massive national security risk.

> Based on what? Yahoo Finance report that's 3 years old, puts India at #4: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/15-countries-most-cyber-crime... But 2024 data from PIB puts the number of occurrence much higher at 2.27 million: https://www.pib.gov.in/PressNoteDetails.aspx?NoteId=155384&M... > You don't need to root everyone's phones to regulate financial crime. Yes, I agree. Read this comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/…

Post by sneak » Tue, Dec 02, 2025, 12:52 PM UTC

rishabhaiover wrote: post #22

I'm shocked by people and state using the crutch of cyber crime or scams to push a totalitarian solution to a problem that is better solved by improved education and targeted campaigns against common security pitfalls. I abhor any decision that robs even a grain of my individual freedom.

Post by macleginn » Tue, Dec 02, 2025, 12:55 PM UTC

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wosined wrote: post #172

Sounds so authoritarian. Luckily, in the UK you only have to scan your face and ID to access cat photos.

It's all happening really quickly, so I haven't been able to keep up. I know Starmer said that digital ID will be mandatory to work in the UK. Did he mention how that would be implemented? Is the UK going to issue and official device to everyone in country, or are the people supposed to pay for it? What about homeless, poor, and the provisional residents?

Post by jack_tripper » Tue, Dec 02, 2025, 12:58 PM UTC

eitland wrote: post #520

jack_tripper wrote: post #513

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> 1. There are lots of men walking in Ukrainian streets. With the right papers clearing them of draft obligations, sure. >2. Why single out Ukraine here? Because this is the best example right now that everyone knows and can somewhat relate to. Unless you happen to know any other western country currently doing this.

>>> Just grab any man you see on the street, throw him in the van and ship him to the conscription office for processing. >> 1. This is a wild exaggeration: [1] There are lots of men walking in Ukrainian streets. > With the right papers clearing them of draft obligations, sure. So basically you agree with me that it was a wild exaggeration? [1] Also your computer seem to have a bug where its clipboard selectively rem…