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Google unkills JPEG XL?

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Re: Google unkills JPEG XL?

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A full-resolution, maximum-size JPEG XL image (1,073,741,823 × 1,073,741,824): Uncompressed: 3.5–7 exabytes Realistically compressed: Tens to hundreds of petabytes Thats a serious high-res image

Yes, but unlike AVIF, JPEG XL supports progressive decoding, so you can see the picture in lower quality long before the download has finished. (Ordinary JPEG also supports progressive decoding, but in a much less efficient manner, which means you have to wait longer for previews with lower quality.)

Re: Google unkills JPEG XL?

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A full-resolution, maximum-size JPEG XL image (1,073,741,823 × 1,073,741,824): Uncompressed: 3.5–7 exabytes Realistically compressed: Tens to hundreds of petabytes Thats a serious high-res image

An image of earth at very roughly 4cmx4cm resolution? (If I've knocked the zero's off correctly)

Re: Google unkills JPEG XL?

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Well, they said they would unkill xslt if someone would rewrite and maintain it so that it's not the abandonware horrorshow it was. As for JPEG XL, of course they unkilled it. WEBP has been deprecated in favor of JPEG XL.

Webp deprecated? According to what?

VP8 is in all major browsers due to WebRTC, and webp uses little more code than the VP8 keyframe decoder, so it also has baseline support and is unlikely to be deprecated any time soon. https://caniuse.com/?search=vp8

Similarly, AVIF uses little more code than the AV1 keyframe decoder, so since every browser supports AV1, every browser also supports AVIF.

Re: Google unkills JPEG XL?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, they said they would unkill xslt if someone would rewrite and maintain it so that it's not the abandonware horrorshow it was. As for JPEG XL, of course they unkilled it. WEBP has been deprecated in favor of JPEG XL.

honestly hate webp so happy about this

I don't know much about webp. Just have checked the wiki, it looks nice. So for which reason you hate it?

Re: Google unkills JPEG XL?

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Didn't Mozilla basically say they would support it if Google does? Mozilla doesn't have the resources to maintain a feature that no one can actually use; they're barely managing to keep up with the latest standards as it is.

They have many millions to spend on engineers. They should do that.

Just come up with some way to make it a huge win for Pocket integration or the like.

Re: Google unkills JPEG XL?

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Having key browser implementers not involved in the standards processes is what lead us to the W3C wasting several years chasing XHTML 2.0.

There are other key browser implementers. Google should not have more than an advisory role in any standards organization.

The other key browser implementers are also part of WHATWG.

Who do you suppose should be in charge of web standards? I can’t imagine the train wreck of incompetence if standards were driven by bureaucrats instead of stakeholders.

Re: Google unkills JPEG XL?

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As a monopoly, Google should be barred from having standards positions and be legally required to build and support the web standards as determined by other parties. The insanity that the web platform is just "whatever Google's whims are" remains insane and mercurial. The web platform should not be as inconsistent as Google's own product strategies, wonder if XSLT will get unkilled in a few months.

Well, they said they would unkill xslt if someone would rewrite and maintain it so that it's not the abandonware horrorshow it was. As for JPEG XL, of course they unkilled it. WEBP has been deprecated in favor of JPEG XL.

I don’t think they actually said that about xslt at all. From what I saw they basically said usage is low enough that they do not care about it.

Can you point to somewhere that Google or anyone else indicated that they would support xslt once there’s a secure, supported version?

Re: Google unkills JPEG XL?

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A full-resolution, maximum-size JPEG XL image (1,073,741,823 × 1,073,741,824): Uncompressed: 3.5–7 exabytes Realistically compressed: Tens to hundreds of petabytes Thats a serious high-res image

The only practical way to work with such large images is if they are tiled and pyramidal anyway

Re: Google unkills JPEG XL?

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post #4

As a monopoly, Google should be barred from having standards positions and be legally required to build and support the web standards as determined by other parties. The insanity that the web platform is just "whatever Google's whims are" remains insane and mercurial. The web platform should not be as inconsistent as Google's own product strategies, wonder if XSLT will get unkilled in a few months.

Well, they said they would unkill xslt if someone would rewrite and maintain it so that it's not the abandonware horrorshow it was. As for JPEG XL, of course they unkilled it. WEBP has been deprecated in favor of JPEG XL.

> Well, they said they would unkill xslt if someone would rewrite and maintain it so that it's not the abandonware horrorshow it was.

Who said this? I was never able to find any support among the browser devs for "keep XSLT with some more secure non-libxslt implementation".

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