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Seriously doubt it.
When Sam Altman buys 40% of global DRAM wafer production, that looks like a demand increase to the market.
Not to mention the other companies panic buying another ~20% (guess).
1GB Raspberry Pi 5, and memory-driven price rises
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Re: 1GB Raspberry Pi 5, and memory-driven price rises
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#73I don't really blame them, but my question is, if ram price goes down, will RPI drop its prices? My experience with other companies is no.
These scenarios end up being testers to see what people will pay. If people are buying your product at a ridiculous price, why drop it?
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#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
ECC memory is a bit like RAID: A consumer-level RAM stick will (traditionally) have 8 8-bit-wide chips operating basically in RAID-0 to provide 64-bit-wide access, whereas enterprise-level RAM sticks will operate with 9 8-bit-wide chips in something closer to RAID-4 or -5. But they are all exactly the same chips. The ECC magic happens in the memory controller, not the RAM stick. Anyone buying ECC RAM for servers is b…
> Anyone buying ECC RAM for servers is buying on the same market as you building a new desktop computer. Even when the sticks are completely incompatible with each other? I think servers tend to use RDIMM, desktops use UDIMM. Personally I'm not seeing as step increase in (b2b) RDIMMs compared to the same stores selling UDIMM (b2c), but I'm also looking at different stores tailored towards different types of users.
The expensive part is DRAM chips. They drive prices for sticks.
Re: 1GB Raspberry Pi 5, and memory-driven price rises
#75RPi Locator is a great service if you're looking to buy a Pi you can afford.
Re: 1GB Raspberry Pi 5, and memory-driven price rises
#76I don't really blame them, but my question is, if ram price goes down, will RPI drop its prices? My experience with other companies is no.
They will if they have competitors who undercut them. Otherwise, no.
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Indeed, it makes mini computers with soldered ram actually end up being quite cheap by comparison. HP will currently sell you 128GB AMD or Nvidia boxes for 1.7-2.8k depending on your flavor of choice. Not ECC though.
...till supplies last. Which won't be long when people do exactly that (hey, that mini PC is now cheaper than building similar setup)
Indeed…
Re: 1GB Raspberry Pi 5, and memory-driven price rises
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Nowadays old-gen server hardware can be a viable alternative to a new HEDT or workstation, which would typically use top-of-the-line consumer parts. The price and performance are both broadly comparable.
Isn't the typical server much noisier than, e.g., a high-end desktop (HEDT) with Noctua fans?
No. Up to you to cool. I use an Epyc based system as a home server and you can’t hear it. At a previous employer we built a cluster out of these and just water cooled them. Very easy.
This is a chassis and fan problem not a CPU problem. Some devices do need their own cooling if your case is not a rack mount. E.g. if you have a mellanox chip those run hot unless you cool them specifically. In rackmount use case that happens anyway.
Re: 1GB Raspberry Pi 5, and memory-driven price rises
#79It’s sad to see the one area of life that has long resisted inflation (computing) now succumb to inflationary forces. Other than emergency situations such as COVID-19, I’m used to seeing prices going down over time for computers and their components. It’s one of the rare bright spots when everything else is escalating in price, and now that’s disappearing.
Firstly, this is not due to inflation. The price increase is explicitly (per the article even) due to increased market demand that is causing raised prices.
Secondly, Computing has always been subject to inflation. It cannot escape inflation. You may not notice it , perhaps due to the increase in performance but the cost of parts definitely has risen in the same tiers if you look over a long enough period to avoid pricing amortization
Re: 1GB Raspberry Pi 5, and memory-driven price rises
#80The article mentions "the $10 Raspberry Pi Zero". I feel this is rewriting history. The Raspberry Pi Zero was $5 when it was released back in 2015. It was mostly out of stock, but I did manage to get one unit at that price eventually.
Nowadays you can no longer get the Raspberrry Pi Zero for less than 12€ or so. I consider the $5 Raspberry Pi Zero to be among the best values on the market and there hasn't been anything else that came close.