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Xlibre is a fork of the Xorg Xserver with lots of code cleanups

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Re: Xlibre is a fork of the Xorg Xserver with lots of code cleanups

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Post by [deleted] »

ahoka wrote: post #23
komali2 wrote: post #2

Seems interesting but unfortunately might be a bit political? > It's explicitly free of any "DEI" or similar discriminatory policies. Complaining about DEI is a marker for a specific ideology. I see this and think great, a project of people who want to be allowed to "just crack jokes" but then get super defensive when they get called out on it. It also makes me instantly suspect that their ejection from the project f…

So a German, thinking his work is much better than it actually is blames liberals and minorities for his failure and tries to take over the governance? Wow, that seems familiar.

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Re: Xlibre is a fork of the Xorg Xserver with lots of code cleanups

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Post by dijit »

gchamonlive wrote: post #34
dijit wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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You think like this because you have the privilege of not being affected by discrimination. It's not enough to "not be a racist". You are being downvoted because of this, and thinking everyone but you is immature for this conversation just highlights this.

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Re: Xlibre is a fork of the Xorg Xserver with lots of code cleanups

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Post by viraptor »

mrighele wrote: post #35
komali2 wrote: post #2

Seems interesting but unfortunately might be a bit political? > It's explicitly free of any "DEI" or similar discriminatory policies. Complaining about DEI is a marker for a specific ideology. I see this and think great, a project of people who want to be allowed to "just crack jokes" but then get super defensive when they get called out on it. It also makes me instantly suspect that their ejection from the project f…

> Complaining about DEI is a marker for a specific ideology. Which ideology ? I find that DEI is a very ideological position specific to the America left (and to the America political situation). Not everybody wants to have to deal with it. Judging contributors just according to their contributions to the project (in general, not just code), is inherently anti-DEI because it would be about equality, not equity.

> specific to the America left (and to the America political situation)

It's not. It's not called explicitly DEI in other countries, but the ideas are in no way limited to the US.

Re: Xlibre is a fork of the Xorg Xserver with lots of code cleanups

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Post by amiga386 »

komali2 wrote: post #2

Seems interesting but unfortunately might be a bit political? > It's explicitly free of any "DEI" or similar discriminatory policies. Complaining about DEI is a marker for a specific ideology. I see this and think great, a project of people who want to be allowed to "just crack jokes" but then get super defensive when they get called out on it. It also makes me instantly suspect that their ejection from the project f…

The problem is:

* The people who make XFree86/Xorg, GNOME and KDE are all part of the same FreeDesktop.Org club. They have a (not so) secret plan to completely ditch X11 and replace it with the thing they've been dicking about with for 17 years: Wayland.

* Wayland's still nowhere near X11 replacement quality, and in several cases, they actually think they've done you a solid by taking away useful things X11 can do, like the ability to reliably take screenshots with third-party software, or get a reliable list of screens and pick the one you'll open on. They exhibit worrying levels of phone-brain or "platform"-brain. My computer, my rules, you dipshits.

* To ensure they achieve their goal of killing X11, the developers of Xorg are _intentionally_ going to stop supporting it, to scare you over to Wayland. "Who'll support your precious X11 if we, its own developers, abandon it? Muhahahahahaha!" they might ask.

* What they didn't count on was the batshit conspiracy theorist who'd been submitting hundreds of patches to Xorg that they'd just been ignoring. He's escaped the asylum, he's anti-woke, and he's the saviour of X11. God help us all. And if you dare take him up on his offer to keep using X11, the X11-haters club (FreeDesktop) will call you a Nazi to delegitimise you so they can move forward with their plan to kill X11.

It's a side-issue that the FreeDesktop/KDE/GNOME folks have gotten more divisive and confrontational in their politics and have no problem milking their tech projects to further their political goals. If you want someone to blame for this, blame the general increase in divisiveness that came from social media weaponising disagreement to the point the orange shitbag got elected and all the tech corps kow-towed to him. The GNOME developers have always been officious pricks who seem completely deaf to user feedback and actively fight you in the bug reports, but they haven't previously been banging on about "Nazi bars"; that's a recent development.

Re: Xlibre is a fork of the Xorg Xserver with lots of code cleanups

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Post by b00g13bored »

hagbard_c wrote: post #26
speed_spread wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" of contributors agreement.

Good, that's the one we want. Don't tell me whether you like gravy, don't tell me your favourite colour, don't tell me about anything not related to the project unless it happens to be in a discussion totally unrelated to it. It is not that I mind knowing whether you like gravy or prefer green over red, it is just that I'd rather not have to think about whether you're in the gravy-faction or the green camp and have t…

Yet here you are sharing preferences no one asked to hear about.

Re: Xlibre is a fork of the Xorg Xserver with lots of code cleanups

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Post by HeckFeck »

snowram wrote: post #33
voidUpdate wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're also explicitly pro-DEI, given the next paragraph. "It doesn't matter which country you're coming from, your political views, your race, your sex, your age, your food menu, whether you wear boots or heels, whether you're furry or fairy, Conan or McKay, comic character, a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri, or just a boring average person. Anybody who's interested in bringing X forward is welcome."

Huh huh, he could have just said "PRs are welcome" then. This is a window manager, no need to be weird by being this specific.

It's an abortive attempt at parody. Could've just said "On the Internet, no one knows you're a dog" and we could at least enjoy the throwback.

Re: Xlibre is a fork of the Xorg Xserver with lots of code cleanups

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Post by mort96 »

amiga386 wrote: post #44
komali2 wrote: post #2

Seems interesting but unfortunately might be a bit political? > It's explicitly free of any "DEI" or similar discriminatory policies. Complaining about DEI is a marker for a specific ideology. I see this and think great, a project of people who want to be allowed to "just crack jokes" but then get super defensive when they get called out on it. It also makes me instantly suspect that their ejection from the project f…

The problem is: * The people who make XFree86/Xorg, GNOME and KDE are all part of the same FreeDesktop.Org club. They have a (not so) secret plan to completely ditch X11 and replace it with the thing they've been dicking about with for 17 years: Wayland. * Wayland's still nowhere near X11 replacement quality, and in several cases, they actually think they've done you a solid by taking away useful things X11 can do, l…

> What they didn't count on was the batshit conspiracy theorist who'd been submitting hundreds of patches to XFree86 that they'd just been ignoring

It's worth noting that a bunch of those patches are just straight up broken and seemingly untested.

Re: Xlibre is a fork of the Xorg Xserver with lots of code cleanups

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Post by psychoslave »

komali2 wrote: post #2

Seems interesting but unfortunately might be a bit political? > It's explicitly free of any "DEI" or similar discriminatory policies. Complaining about DEI is a marker for a specific ideology. I see this and think great, a project of people who want to be allowed to "just crack jokes" but then get super defensive when they get called out on it. It also makes me instantly suspect that their ejection from the project f…

What's a DEI in this context, please.
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