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Xlibre is a fork of the Xorg Xserver with lots of code cleanups

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Re: Xlibre is a fork of the Xorg Xserver with lots of code cleanups

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Post by gldrk »

brobdingnagians wrote: post #22
komali2 wrote: post #2

Seems interesting but unfortunately might be a bit political? > It's explicitly free of any "DEI" or similar discriminatory policies. Complaining about DEI is a marker for a specific ideology. I see this and think great, a project of people who want to be allowed to "just crack jokes" but then get super defensive when they get called out on it. It also makes me instantly suspect that their ejection from the project f…

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DEI is no longer in vogue (or a thing) thanks to 10/7. Its former backers are funding the White House ballroom right now.

Re: Xlibre is a fork of the Xorg Xserver with lots of code cleanups

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Post by viraptor »

hagbard_c wrote: post #20
komali2 wrote: post #2

Seems interesting but unfortunately might be a bit political? > It's explicitly free of any "DEI" or similar discriminatory policies. Complaining about DEI is a marker for a specific ideology. I see this and think great, a project of people who want to be allowed to "just crack jokes" but then get super defensive when they get called out on it. It also makes me instantly suspect that their ejection from the project f…

Being free of DEI (et. al.) is a good thing, it is just sad that something like that is a noteworthy policy. It comes down to stating that you don't care whether contributors happen to be left- or right-handed: well, duh, of course you don't care and it would be silly to insist on having 'equal handedness representation' as a policy for a project.

So this is a funny example you brought up, especially in terms of a GUI related project. You know what a system like that should take into account? People with non-standard handedness! For that to happen, you may want diversity in at least your test team, and inclusivity for people with different or limited physical abilities. Because swapping the mouse buttons around or making different keyboard mappings useful and other accessibility features are often pushed by people who have some real life experience with diverse population. For good design, X should explicitly look for various ways people differ and how to include them in ways appropriate to their situation.

Re: Xlibre is a fork of the Xorg Xserver with lots of code cleanups

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Post by snowram »

voidUpdate wrote: post #4
komali2 wrote: post #2

Seems interesting but unfortunately might be a bit political? > It's explicitly free of any "DEI" or similar discriminatory policies. Complaining about DEI is a marker for a specific ideology. I see this and think great, a project of people who want to be allowed to "just crack jokes" but then get super defensive when they get called out on it. It also makes me instantly suspect that their ejection from the project f…

They're also explicitly pro-DEI, given the next paragraph. "It doesn't matter which country you're coming from, your political views, your race, your sex, your age, your food menu, whether you wear boots or heels, whether you're furry or fairy, Conan or McKay, comic character, a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri, or just a boring average person. Anybody who's interested in bringing X forward is welcome."

Huh huh, he could have just said "PRs are welcome" then. This is a window manager, no need to be weird by being this specific.

Re: Xlibre is a fork of the Xorg Xserver with lots of code cleanups

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Post by gchamonlive »

dijit wrote: post #16
komali2 wrote: post #2

Seems interesting but unfortunately might be a bit political? > It's explicitly free of any "DEI" or similar discriminatory policies. Complaining about DEI is a marker for a specific ideology. I see this and think great, a project of people who want to be allowed to "just crack jokes" but then get super defensive when they get called out on it. It also makes me instantly suspect that their ejection from the project f…

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You think like this because you have the privilege of not being affected by discrimination. It's not enough to "not be a racist". You are being downvoted because of this, and thinking everyone but you is immature for this conversation just highlights this.

Re: Xlibre is a fork of the Xorg Xserver with lots of code cleanups

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Post by mrighele »

komali2 wrote: post #2

Seems interesting but unfortunately might be a bit political? > It's explicitly free of any "DEI" or similar discriminatory policies. Complaining about DEI is a marker for a specific ideology. I see this and think great, a project of people who want to be allowed to "just crack jokes" but then get super defensive when they get called out on it. It also makes me instantly suspect that their ejection from the project f…

> Complaining about DEI is a marker for a specific ideology.

Which ideology ? I find that DEI is a very ideological position specific to the America left (and to the America political situation). Not everybody wants to have to deal with it. Judging contributors just according to their contributions to the project (in general, not just code), is inherently anti-DEI because it would be about equality, not equity.

Re: Xlibre is a fork of the Xorg Xserver with lots of code cleanups

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Post by guesswho_ »

komali2 wrote: post #2

Seems interesting but unfortunately might be a bit political? > It's explicitly free of any "DEI" or similar discriminatory policies. Complaining about DEI is a marker for a specific ideology. I see this and think great, a project of people who want to be allowed to "just crack jokes" but then get super defensive when they get called out on it. It also makes me instantly suspect that their ejection from the project f…

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Re: Xlibre is a fork of the Xorg Xserver with lots of code cleanups

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Post by gjvc »

komali2 wrote: post #2

Seems interesting but unfortunately might be a bit political? > It's explicitly free of any "DEI" or similar discriminatory policies. Complaining about DEI is a marker for a specific ideology. I see this and think great, a project of people who want to be allowed to "just crack jokes" but then get super defensive when they get called out on it. It also makes me instantly suspect that their ejection from the project f…

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Re: Xlibre is a fork of the Xorg Xserver with lots of code cleanups

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Post by brobdingnagians »

gldrk wrote: post #31
brobdingnagians wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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DEI is no longer in vogue (or a thing) thanks to 10/7. Its former backers are funding the White House ballroom right now.

Which shows that the mega-corporations that endorsed it before weren't even sincere in that. Further evidence that you shouldn't trust a soulless mega-corporation-- no matter what they profess in public.

I respect someone who stands up for their beliefs, even if I think they are flawed.

Re: Xlibre is a fork of the Xorg Xserver with lots of code cleanups

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Post by lawn »

brobdingnagians wrote: post #22
komali2 wrote: post #2

Seems interesting but unfortunately might be a bit political? > It's explicitly free of any "DEI" or similar discriminatory policies. Complaining about DEI is a marker for a specific ideology. I see this and think great, a project of people who want to be allowed to "just crack jokes" but then get super defensive when they get called out on it. It also makes me instantly suspect that their ejection from the project f…

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"anti-DEI" is currently used as a fascist agenda to allow discrimination, not to prevent it. It's used to fire and harass women, trans, homosexuals, and people of color.

Re: Xlibre is a fork of the Xorg Xserver with lots of code cleanups

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Post by wongogue »

clhodapp wrote: post #6
komali2 wrote: post #2

Seems interesting but unfortunately might be a bit political? > It's explicitly free of any "DEI" or similar discriminatory policies. Complaining about DEI is a marker for a specific ideology. I see this and think great, a project of people who want to be allowed to "just crack jokes" but then get super defensive when they get called out on it. It also makes me instantly suspect that their ejection from the project f…

They were ejected because they submitted some seriously broken patches, which triggered kind of a panic re-review of their previous patches, which concluded that they had been careless the whole time (Chesterton's Fence type stuff). The political stuff is just an extra bonus.

So another grifter pandering to the ultra-conservatives? Where have I seen that again?
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