Earlier discussion (5 months ago): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44199502
Xlibre is a fork of the Xorg Xserver with lots of code cleanups
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Re: Xlibre is a fork of the Xorg Xserver with lots of code cleanups
#12> Together we'll make X great again!
But isn't the problem of X a problem of responsabilities breadth ? I.e. a philosophical problem rather than a "implementation" one ?
(For my part I haven't switched to wayland yet, and still use BSPWM)
Re: Xlibre is a fork of the Xorg Xserver with lots of code cleanups
#13Seems interesting but unfortunately might be a bit political? > It's explicitly free of any "DEI" or similar discriminatory policies. Complaining about DEI is a marker for a specific ideology. I see this and think great, a project of people who want to be allowed to "just crack jokes" but then get super defensive when they get called out on it. It also makes me instantly suspect that their ejection from the project f…
They're also explicitly pro-DEI, given the next paragraph. "It doesn't matter which country you're coming from, your political views, your race, your sex, your age, your food menu, whether you wear boots or heels, whether you're furry or fairy, Conan or McKay, comic character, a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri, or just a boring average person. Anybody who's interested in bringing X forward is welcome."
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#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
They're also explicitly pro-DEI, given the next paragraph. "It doesn't matter which country you're coming from, your political views, your race, your sex, your age, your food menu, whether you wear boots or heels, whether you're furry or fairy, Conan or McKay, comic character, a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri, or just a boring average person. Anybody who's interested in bringing X forward is welcome."
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I don't see how they are any of those things either...
Re: Xlibre is a fork of the Xorg Xserver with lots of code cleanups
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's Equality not Equity.
That's Inclusion
No, it's not. It's a statement opposing explicit exclusion, but that's not the same as inclusion.
EDIT to make this comment a bit more useful and productive: When people talk about "inclusion" in a DEI context, they typically mean making an active effort to include a diverse set of people. Outreach programs, looking at the community to identify things which drive away groups of people, that sort of thing. It can mean cracking down on "jokes" which make fun of some groups of people, or discussions of topics which make groups of people uncomfortable, etc.
It's a very different beast from just having a policy against explicitly disallowing contributions from people based on their group identity.
Re: Xlibre is a fork of the Xorg Xserver with lots of code cleanups
#16Seems interesting but unfortunately might be a bit political? > It's explicitly free of any "DEI" or similar discriminatory policies. Complaining about DEI is a marker for a specific ideology. I see this and think great, a project of people who want to be allowed to "just crack jokes" but then get super defensive when they get called out on it. It also makes me instantly suspect that their ejection from the project f…
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#17Seems interesting but unfortunately might be a bit political? > It's explicitly free of any "DEI" or similar discriminatory policies. Complaining about DEI is a marker for a specific ideology. I see this and think great, a project of people who want to be allowed to "just crack jokes" but then get super defensive when they get called out on it. It also makes me instantly suspect that their ejection from the project f…
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#18Seems interesting but unfortunately might be a bit political? > It's explicitly free of any "DEI" or similar discriminatory policies. Complaining about DEI is a marker for a specific ideology. I see this and think great, a project of people who want to be allowed to "just crack jokes" but then get super defensive when they get called out on it. It also makes me instantly suspect that their ejection from the project f…
They were ejected because they submitted some seriously broken patches, which triggered kind of a panic re-review of their previous patches, which concluded that they had been careless the whole time (Chesterton's Fence type stuff). The political stuff is just an extra bonus.
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#20Seems interesting but unfortunately might be a bit political? > It's explicitly free of any "DEI" or similar discriminatory policies. Complaining about DEI is a marker for a specific ideology. I see this and think great, a project of people who want to be allowed to "just crack jokes" but then get super defensive when they get called out on it. It also makes me instantly suspect that their ejection from the project f…
Being free of DEI (et. al.) is a good thing, it is just sad that something like that is a noteworthy policy. It comes down to stating that you don't care whether contributors happen to be left- or right-handed: well, duh, of course you don't care and it would be silly to insist on having 'equal handedness representation' as a policy for a project.