Can't we just append "before:2021-01-01" to Google?
I use this to find old news articles for instance.
Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release
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#132ChatGPT also returns content only created before ChatGPT release, which is why I still have to google damn it!
Is that still the case? And even if so how is it going to avoid keeping it like that in the future? Are they going to stop scraping new content, or are they going to filter it with a tool which recognizes their own content?
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#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
Multiple people have coined the idea repeatedly, way before you. The oldest comment on HN I could find was in December 2022 by user spawarotti: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33856172
Here is an even older comment chain about it from 2020: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23895706 Apparently, comparing low-background steel to pre-LLM text is a rather obvious analogy.
As well as that people often do think alike.
If you have a thought, it's likely it's not new.
Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release
#134> This is a search tool that will only return content created before ChatGPT's first public release on November 30, 2022. The problem is that Google's search engine - but, oddly enough, ALL search engines - got worse before that already. I noticed that search engines got worse several years before 2022. So, AI further decreased the quality, but the quality had a downwards trend already, as it was. There are some atte…
the main theory is that with bad results you have to search more and get more engaged in ads so more revenue for google.
Its enshitification
Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release
#135Most of college courses and school books haven't changed in decades. Some reputed college keep courses for Pascal and Fortran instead of Python or Java, just because, it might affect their reputation of being classical or pure or to match their campus buildings style.
Or because the core knowledge stay the same no matter how it is expressed.
Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release
#136> This is a search tool that will only return content created before ChatGPT's first public release on November 30, 2022. The problem is that Google's search engine - but, oddly enough, ALL search engines - got worse before that already. I noticed that search engines got worse several years before 2022. So, AI further decreased the quality, but the quality had a downwards trend already, as it was. There are some atte…
I think this is about trustworthy content, not about a good search engine per se
Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release
#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is it really here to stay? If the wheels fells off the investment train and ChatGPT etc. disappeared tomorrow, how many people would be running inference locally? I suspect most people either wouldn't meet the hardware requirements or would be too frustrated with the slow token generation to bother. My mom certainly wouldn't be talking to it anymore. Remember that a year or two ago, people were saying something simil…
Maybe you don't love your mom enough to do this, but if ChatGPT disappeared tomorrow and it was something she really used and loved, I wouldn't think twice before buying her a rig powerful enough to run a quantized downlodable model on, though I'm not current on which model or software would be the best for her purposes. I get that your relationship with your mother, or your financial situation might be different tho…
> I get that your relationship with your mother, or your financial situation might be different though.
Fucking hell
Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release
#138> This is a search tool that will only return content created before ChatGPT's first public release on November 30, 2022. The problem is that Google's search engine - but, oddly enough, ALL search engines - got worse before that already. I noticed that search engines got worse several years before 2022. So, AI further decreased the quality, but the quality had a downwards trend already, as it was. There are some atte…
I think this is about trustworthy content, not about a good search engine per se
But it's not necessarily trustworthy content, we had autogenerated listicles and keyword list sites before ChatGPT.
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#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
> we called it "standing on the shoulders of giants" We do not see nearly so far though. Because these days we are standing on the shoulders of giants that have been put into a blender and ground down into a slippery pink paste and levelled out to a statistically typical 7.3mm high layer of goo.
The secret is you then have to heat up that goo. When the temperature gets high enough things get interesting again.
Just simulate some evolution here and there.
Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release
#140> This is a search tool that will only return content created before ChatGPT's first public release on November 30, 2022. The problem is that Google's search engine - but, oddly enough, ALL search engines - got worse before that already. I noticed that search engines got worse several years before 2022. So, AI further decreased the quality, but the quality had a downwards trend already, as it was. There are some atte…
Are you aware of Kagi (kagi.com)? With them, at least the AI stuff can be turned off. Membership is presently about 61k, and seems to be growing about 2k per month: https://kagi.com/stats