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Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Somewhat related, the leaderboard of em-dash users on HN before ChatGPT: https://www.gally.net/miscellaneous/hn-em-dash-user-leaderbo...

Apparently, it's not only em-dash that's distinctive. I've went through comments of the leader, and spot he also uses the backtick "’" instead of the apostrophe.

I (~100 in the leaderboard, regardless of how you sort) also frequently use ’ (unicode apostrophe) instead of ' :D

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

#102
post #97

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> Anytime I do this — and I did it long before AI did — they are always em dashes It depends if you put the space before and after the dashes--that, to be clear, are meant to be there--or if you don't.

I cannot remember ever reading a book where there was a space around the dashes.

That depends on the language — whereas German puts spaces around —, English afaik usually doesn’t.

Similarly, French puts spaces before and after ? ! while English and German only put spaces afterwards.

[EDIT: I originally wrote that French treats . , ! ? specially. In reality, french only treats ? and ! specially.]

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Anytime I do this — and I did it long before AI did — they are always em dashes It depends if you put the space before and after the dashes--that, to be clear, are meant to be there--or if you don't.

I cannot remember ever reading a book where there was a space around the dashes.

Technically, there are supposed to be hair spaces around the dashes, not regular spaces. They're small enough to be sometimes confused for kerning.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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post #83
post #16

Somewhat related, the leaderboard of em-dash users on HN before ChatGPT: https://www.gally.net/miscellaneous/hn-em-dash-user-leaderbo...

Apparently, it's not only em-dash that's distinctive. I've went through comments of the leader, and spot he also uses the backtick "’" instead of the apostrophe.

Just to be clear this is done automatically by macOS or iOS browsers when configured properly.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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> Anytime I do this — and I did it long before AI did — they are always em dashes It depends if you put the space before and after the dashes--that, to be clear, are meant to be there--or if you don't.

What, no love for our friend the en-dash? - vs – vs —

I once spent a day debugging some data that came from an English doc written by someone in Japan that had been pasted into a system and caused problems. Turned out to be an en-dash issue that was basically invisible to the eye. No love for en-dash!

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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post #95
post #89

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Low background steel is no longer necessary. "...began to fall in 1963, when the Partial Nuclear Test Ban Treaty was enacted, and by 2008 it had decreased to only 0.005 mSv/yr above natural levels. This has made special low-background steel no longer necessary for most radiation-sensitive uses, as new steel now has a low enough radioactive signature." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-background_steel

Interesting. I guess that analogously, we might find that X years after some future AI content production ban, we could similarly start ignoring the low background token issue?

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Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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post #95
post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Low background steel is no longer necessary. "...began to fall in 1963, when the Partial Nuclear Test Ban Treaty was enacted, and by 2008 it had decreased to only 0.005 mSv/yr above natural levels. This has made special low-background steel no longer necessary for most radiation-sensitive uses, as new steel now has a low enough radioactive signature." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-background_steel

Interesting. I guess that analogously, we might find that X years after some future AI content production ban, we could similarly start ignoring the low background token issue?

We used a rather low number of atmospheric bombs, while we are carpet bombing the internet every day with AI marketing copy.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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post #57

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The entire US GDP for the last few quarters is being propped up by GPU vendors and one singular chatbot company, all betting that they can make a trillion dollars on $20-per-month "it's not just X, it's Y" Markov chain generators. We have six to 12 more months of this before the first investor says "wait a minute, we're not making enough money", and the house of cards comes tumbling down. Also, maybe consider why peo…

I feel like this is the kind of dodgy take that'll be dispelled by half an hour's concerted use of the thing you're talking about short of massive technological regression, there's literally never going to be a situation where the use of what amounts to a second brain with access to all the world's public information is not going to be incredibly marketable I dare you to try building a project with Cursor or a better…

> I dare you to try building a project with Cursor or a better cousin and then come back and repeat this comment

I always try every new technology, to understand how it works, and expand my perspective. I've written a few simple websites with Cursor (one mistake and it wiped everything, and I could never get it to produce any acceptable result again), tried writing the script for a YouTube video with ChatGPT and Claude (full of hallucinations, which – after a few rewrites – led to us writing a video about hallucinations), generated subtitles with Whisper (with every single sentence having at least some mistake) and finally used Suno and ChatGPT to generate some songs and images (both of which were massively improved once I just made them myself).

Whether Android apps or websites, scripts, songs, or memes, so far AI is significantly worse at internet research and creation than a human. And cleaning up the work AI did always ended up being taking longer just doing it myself from scratch. AI certainly makes you feel more productive, and it seems like you're getting things done faster, even though it's not.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

#110
post #29

besides for training future models, is this really such a big deal? most of the AI-gened text content is just replacing content-farm SEO-spam anyway. the same stuff that any half-awares person wouldn't have read in the past is now slightly better written, using more em dashes and instances of the word "delve". if you're consistently being caught out by this stuff then likely you need to improve your search hygiene, n…

A colleague sent me a confident ChatGPT formatted bug report.

It misidentified what the actual bug was.

But the tone was so confident, and he replied to my later messages using chat gpt itself, which insisted I was wrong.

I don't like this future.

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