Does any software have a survey for what users want? Instead of immediately pushing AI, they should have pushed a survey where AI was one of the choices/questions.
if they do that there's a risk of getting an answer they don't want
Tell HN: It's now impossible to disable all AI features in Firefox 145 (latest)
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#12Surely they're blowing substantial cash on this, right? I'm not sure what sort of cost/benefit analysis is convincing every last tech company to fit the bill for a gimmicky AI add on.
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#13Firefox 145 here, just updated to latest this morning. My about:config settings still disable the stuff. I get no AI Context Menu.
That's strange, which OS? I am on Arch and also on 145 and I get the "Ask an AI Chatbot" in the context menu. The settings used to work in the past so I am not sure what's going on. I believe these are all the settings I have disabled for AI: browser.ml.chat.enabled browser.ml.chat.menu browser.ml.chat.page browser.ml.chat.page.footerBadge browser.ml.chat.page.menuBadge browser.ml.chat.shortcuts browser.ml.chat.sideb…
As far as I can see, that's it. Or at least I'm not seeing anything else related that I've disabled.
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#14Isn't it odd? All those tech CEOs tell us that we won't be able to live in a world without AI, how AI will be within every single app, service or codebase eventually...
And then they constantly try to shove it into their products, with no way to disable it. I'm assuming the user data would show that quite a lot of people would turn it off, so to not ruin your own statistics for the next shareholder/investor meeting, you need to force them
Re: Tell HN: It's now impossible to disable all AI features in Firefox 145 (latest)
#15Isn't that context menu the one that is disabled from within the context menu itself? Or have they removed that option?
Re: Tell HN: It's now impossible to disable all AI features in Firefox 145 (latest)
#16If it can't truly be disabled is there a question one could ask AI that is not illegal but would get their IP perma-banned? I have a static IP is why I am asking. Or perhaps domains that could be blocked in Unbound. What irritates AI owners the most?
Re: Tell HN: It's now impossible to disable all AI features in Firefox 145 (latest)
#17they also removed the user facing setting to disable ocsp stapling - ocsp stapling leaks domain info. it can only be found in about:config now.
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#18they also removed the user facing setting to disable ocsp stapling - ocsp stapling leaks domain info. it can only be found in about:config now.
I’m confused about for this assertion, for two reasons:
- My understanding is that OCSP stapling stops leaks, because the browser can get OCSP data from the server instead of needing to fetch it separately.
- Last I heard, Firefox was in the process of removing OCSP responder checks (precisely for privacy reasons) in favor of CRLite-based revocation checks—are you sure they didn’t remove whatever setting you’re referring to from the UI because it’s no longer relevant?
Re: Tell HN: It's now impossible to disable all AI features in Firefox 145 (latest)
#19You still have the option to disable the AI assistant. You simply need to disable the relevant item in about:config.
Ah...you ask which ones need to be disabled? Find it yourself. You have the right to disable it.
> The Mozilla Manifesto: Principle 9
> Commercial involvement in the development of the internet brings many benefits; a balance between commercial profit and public benefit is critical.
Re: Tell HN: It's now impossible to disable all AI features in Firefox 145 (latest)
#20Isn't that context menu the one that is disabled from within the context menu itself? Or have they removed that option?
I just did this now. I can't remember exactly what it said, but something like "Remove AI chatbot" and I clicked it, and it was no longer in the context menu. Just after updating versioh 145.0.1 to 145.0.2.