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The Thinking Game Film – Google DeepMind documentary

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Re: The Thinking Game Film – Google DeepMind documentary

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Post by jeffbee »

incognito124 wrote: post #28
jeffbee wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DeepMind's new [edit: apparently now old] weather forecast model is similar in architecture to the toys that generate videos of horses addressing Congress or cats wearing sombreros. The technology moves forward and while some of the new applications are not important, other applications of the same technology may be important.

Is it really similar? I was under the impression it's a GNN of a (really dense) polyhedron, not a diffusion model

GenCast is a diffusion model, but it is not the "new" one like I said. Apparently there is another one. https://arxiv.org/pdf/2506.10772

Re: The Thinking Game Film – Google DeepMind documentary

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Post by modeless »

incognito124 wrote: post #7

Watched it a while ago. Made me seriously think about AI and what we should use it for. I feel like all the entertainment use cases (image and video gen) are a complete waste.

You might have said the same thing about GPUs for 20 years when they were mostly for games, before they turned out to be essential for AI. All the entertainment use cases were directly funding development of the next generation of computing all along.

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Post by echelon »

mattlondon wrote: post #20
incognito124 wrote: post #7

Watched it a while ago. Made me seriously think about AI and what we should use it for. I feel like all the entertainment use cases (image and video gen) are a complete waste.

The chatbots and image editors are just a side-show. The real value is coming in e.g. chemistry (Alpha fold etc all), fusion research, weather prediction etc.

None of that has reached the market yet. If it was up to the sciences alone, AI couldn't bear the weight of its own costs.

It also needs to be vertically integrated to make money, otherwise it's a handout to the materials science company. I can't see any of the AI companies stretching themselves that thin. So they give it away for goodwill or good PR.

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Post by dwroberts »

I want to watch it, but at the same time, it’s basically going to be an advert for Google. I’m not sure if I can put up with the uncritical fluff.

I would love to see a real (ie outsider) filmmaker do this - eg an updated ‘Lo and behold’ by Werner Herzog

Re: The Thinking Game Film – Google DeepMind documentary

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Post by incognito124 »

echelon wrote: post #35
mattlondon wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The chatbots and image editors are just a side-show. The real value is coming in e.g. chemistry (Alpha fold etc all), fusion research, weather prediction etc.

None of that has reached the market yet. If it was up to the sciences alone, AI couldn't bear the weight of its own costs. It also needs to be vertically integrated to make money, otherwise it's a handout to the materials science company. I can't see any of the AI companies stretching themselves that thin. So they give it away for goodwill or good PR.

That's not really true. Commercial weather prediction has reached the market, and a drug (sorry, can't find the new s link) that was found by AI-accelerated drug discovery is now in clinical testing

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Post by Hacker_Yogi »

stevenjgarner wrote: post #33
nightski wrote: post #29

In my experience all DeepMind content ends up being a puff piece for Dennis Hassabis. It's like his personal marketing engine lol.

Is that a good thing or a bad thing? Demis is after all a co-founder and CEO.

Makes it seem that AI is a one-man show while also feeding the hype cycle

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Post by actionfromafar »

dwroberts wrote: post #36

I want to watch it, but at the same time, it’s basically going to be an advert for Google. I’m not sure if I can put up with the uncritical fluff. I would love to see a real (ie outsider) filmmaker do this - eg an updated ‘Lo and behold’ by Werner Herzog

Where he speaks french
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