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Migrating Dillo from GitHub

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Re: Migrating Dillo from GitHub

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>frontend barely works without JavaScript, ... In the past, it used to gracefully degrade without enforcing JavaScript, but now it doesn't.

And the github frontend developers are aware of these accessibility problems (via the forums and bug reports). They just don't care anymore. They just want to make the site appear to work at first glance which is why index pages are actual text in html but nothing else is.

Re: Migrating Dillo from GitHub

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We are in the disapora phase; there is a steady stream of these announcements, each with a different GitHub alternative. I speculate that within a few months, the communities will have settled on a single dominant one. I'm curious if it will be one of the existing ones, or something new. Perhaps a well-known company or individual will announce one; it will have good marketing, and dominate.

Re: Migrating Dillo from GitHub

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post #2

>frontend barely works without JavaScript, ... In the past, it used to gracefully degrade without enforcing JavaScript, but now it doesn't. And the github frontend developers are aware of these accessibility problems (via the forums and bug reports). They just don't care anymore. They just want to make the site appear to work at first glance which is why index pages are actual text in html but nothing else is.

Fixing accessibility problems won't make shareholders happy while forcing AI down our throats will.

Re: Migrating Dillo from GitHub

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post #2

>frontend barely works without JavaScript, ... In the past, it used to gracefully degrade without enforcing JavaScript, but now it doesn't. And the github frontend developers are aware of these accessibility problems (via the forums and bug reports). They just don't care anymore. They just want to make the site appear to work at first glance which is why index pages are actual text in html but nothing else is.

Having to enable javascript to see a website is not an accessibility problem according to WCAG.

Re: Migrating Dillo from GitHub

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We are in the disapora phase; there is a steady stream of these announcements, each with a different GitHub alternative. I speculate that within a few months, the communities will have settled on a single dominant one. I'm curious if it will be one of the existing ones, or something new. Perhaps a well-known company or individual will announce one; it will have good marketing, and dominate.

This has been going on for a decade, at the beginning it was projects moving to Gitlab now there's a lot of alternative projects but GitHub is still the only one that counts for discoverability. This is a very small minority of projects that move away from Github and it's way too early to declare GitHub doomed.

Re: Migrating Dillo from GitHub

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We are in the disapora phase; there is a steady stream of these announcements, each with a different GitHub alternative. I speculate that within a few months, the communities will have settled on a single dominant one. I'm curious if it will be one of the existing ones, or something new. Perhaps a well-known company or individual will announce one; it will have good marketing, and dominate.

Isn't that pretty much GitLab? But then most people still prefer GitHub anyway.

Re: Migrating Dillo from GitHub

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>The most annoying problem is that the frontend barely works without JavaScript,

Not only did they spend years rewriting the frontend from Pjax to I think React? They also manage to lost customer because of it.

Re: Migrating Dillo from GitHub

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We are in the disapora phase; there is a steady stream of these announcements, each with a different GitHub alternative. I speculate that within a few months, the communities will have settled on a single dominant one. I'm curious if it will be one of the existing ones, or something new. Perhaps a well-known company or individual will announce one; it will have good marketing, and dominate.

> I speculate that within a few months, the communities will have settled on a single dominant one.

The solutions on the roadmap are not centralized as GitHub. There is a real initiative to promote federation so we would not need to rely on one entity.

Re: Migrating Dillo from GitHub

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post #7

We are in the disapora phase; there is a steady stream of these announcements, each with a different GitHub alternative. I speculate that within a few months, the communities will have settled on a single dominant one. I'm curious if it will be one of the existing ones, or something new. Perhaps a well-known company or individual will announce one; it will have good marketing, and dominate.

Isn't that pretty much GitLab? But then most people still prefer GitHub anyway.

Gitlab is worse than GitHub in every way.

At least GitHub adds new features over time.

Gitlab has been removing features in favor of more expensive plans even after explicitly saying they wouldn’t do so.

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