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Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming

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Post by berdario »

MrNiceGuy321 wrote: post #279
nrklvklfl wrote: post #275

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Android will be around for much longer than Bazzite, that I can assure you.

Also, if you’re into gaming, google play (android) has a lot more games than steam, it’s not even close.

Ok, but the market is absolutely flooded with exploitative stuff, laden with micro transactions and a trickle of miniscule rewards, in attempt to addict the user, rather than genuinely provide enjoyment.

How do you even discover the good games that are worth being played on Android?

I'm aware of https://nobsgames.stavros.io/ , but I'm afraid it might not be extremely up-to-date

And also, I think that Google Play has a much bigger problem than Steam, when it comes to old games being made unavailable (think EA's zzSunset stuff)

Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming

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Post by sublinear »

jtrn wrote: post #239

I have a special spot that gets extremely annoyed when I feel I have to spend a necessary time just figuring out what something is. The page suffers from "developer-brain" marketing, where they describe the technology used to build it (cloud-native images) rather than what the product actually is. Why not just lead with that it is a Linux distro/version focused on gaming. In the beginning, I thought it was new hardwa…

The page clearly states that it's an operating system. It's the very first words.

Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming

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Post by haizhung »

GaryBluto wrote: post #231

Why are there so many of these "specialized" hobby project Linux distros that people are using as daily drivers? Are people too lazy to use an operating system that they have to do even a minor amount of configuration to use? Do people really need every program built in? Projects like this fit all the criteria of what I've nicknamed "Mastodon projects", because they always have either (or both) Mastodon and Discord l…

I use bazzite. I am a software developer at day, working on Unix exclusively. Let me try to give my reason.

I don’t WANT to fiddle around with some random bullshit when all I have in the evening are 1-2 hours. I want to boot the system and just get cracking with a game. Even the 1-2 hours of installation time are already a hard sell to me. It’s ~20% of my weekly gaming time.

And it’s never usually just „a minor amount of configuration“, is it? Depending on what game you are playing, what hardware you have, you can easily spend hours getting a game to work properly, and that’s with bazzite.

I want something that just works, I don’t want to spend hours figuring out magic incantations.

Though admittedly, with AI it’s gotten easier to figure out magic incantations.

Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming

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Post by EliteGadget »

rounce wrote: post #287
EliteGadget wrote: post #252

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Well that is the issue. The experience varies quite a lot depending on a number of factors. Whereas on Windows it doesn't really vary. I have an all AMD machine and almost all the games will run the same or better on Windows. I have friends that have tried gaming on Linux and all of them have found the experience worse. I did run a win debloat script from and use a local account so I don't have the Windows Spyware ru…

Perhaps it’s just evidence that anecdata isn’t some universal truth. I’ve had the complete opposite experience for the vast majority of games, where in most cases performance for me has been better on Linux than it was on Windows (can’t compare like for like now as I no longer have a Windows install outside of a VM). Friends of mine experience weird mid-session crashes and hangs on Windows that I’ve never had on Linu…

> Perhaps it’s just evidence that anecdata isn’t some universal truth.

This isn't though. I have hard numbers. I've actually measured the performance. You get 5-20 FPS less and often more input latency and stutters (1%, 0.1% lows). If the machines doesn't well with Linux, it can be much worse.

Basically on HN whenever you express an opinion based on a significant amount of experience. You get someone basically saying "this is anecdote". There is a difference between "an anecdote" and "I've actually have a huge amount experience with this stuff.

Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming

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Post by pacifika »

wiradikusuma wrote: post #126

I want to create a "gaming streaming platform" like Stadia as a weekend project, does anyone know where to get started? Basically where the input device and the game are in different machines.

If you already have a gaming pc I can recommend an Apple TV and installing Steam Link.

Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming

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Post by anticensor »

MindSpunk wrote: post #169
MrDrMcCoy wrote: post #59

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Anticheat doesn't need to be Linux compatible, it needs to move server-side.

It has been. It's been server-side for decades. It's common industry knowledge that the client can't have authority. But server-side anti cheat can't stop aimbots or wall hacks. Client side anti cheat isn't about stopping you from issuing "teleport me to here plz server" commands, it's about stopping people from reading and writing the game's memory/address space. If you wanted to teleport (and the server was poorly…

> Linux is incompatible with client anti-cheat because there is no security boundary that can't be sidestepped with a custom compiled kernel. Windows is Windows, with known APIs and ways to read process memory that can be monitored. Secure boot means only Microsoft's own built kernels can boot and you now have a meaningful security boundary. Monitor what kernel drivers are loaded and you can make it harder for cheaters to find ways in. Sure you can run in a VM, but you can also detect when it happens.

OK I'll just compile a custom ReactOS build that lets me sidestep that boundary.

Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming

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Post by oblio »

sublinear wrote: post #302
jtrn wrote: post #239

I have a special spot that gets extremely annoyed when I feel I have to spend a necessary time just figuring out what something is. The page suffers from "developer-brain" marketing, where they describe the technology used to build it (cloud-native images) rather than what the product actually is. Why not just lead with that it is a Linux distro/version focused on gaming. In the beginning, I thought it was new hardwa…

The page clearly states that it's an operating system. It's the very first words.

They've edited it due to HN.

Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming

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Post by oblio »

MrNiceGuy321 wrote: post #279
nrklvklfl wrote: post #275

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Android will be around for much longer than Bazzite, that I can assure you.

Also, if you’re into gaming, google play (android) has a lot more games than steam, it’s not even close.

Total sum of complexity and quality is comparable.

Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming

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Post by suspended_state »

GaryBluto wrote: post #297
rlue wrote: post #267

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

His comment isn't exactly a wall of text, it's perfectly fine as it is.

I'm reading it on my computer, and it's perfectly fine; yet, how would it look like on a smartphone?
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