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Steam OS is a rolling release (Arch based) with constant small updates. My Steamdeck has had updates several times this year.
It's snapshotted from Arch, once a year they bump the kernel and include "updated Arch Linux base" as a release note. SteamOS 3.7 is still on Kernel 6.11 and KDE Plasma 6.2, for example. Bazzite is 6.17 and Plasma 6.5. This matters if you're using more recent hardware or want the latest driver optimizations. My 9070 XT is supported by Bazzite, SteamOS won't even boot.
Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming
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Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming
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This. We could be good buddies. I'm not understanding this OS and I'm extremely confused that this post got so much traction on HN. Gosh, either I'm too young, or too old, or too nerdy. I'm not critiquing the project itself, more like, I'm surprised [very surprised], that it got so much traction on HN, not usual news
Same feeling here. Realistically, what is this distro doing that couldn't just be done with a quick bash script on whatever the current 'new user distro' is? The wording is weird too : "Comes with Lutris preinstalled!". Would Windows users switch to a different hypothetical "Windows Distro" that was optimised for gaming? None of this makes any sense to me.
Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming
#293For anyone interested in some gaming benchmarks, Gamer's Nexus (a reputable source with good methodology) has some numbers here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovOx4_8ajZ8 Based on their results, it sounds like there's still quite a way to go Linux gaming/Proton (ie: very inconsistent frametimes on Nvidia hardware), but it's definitely been taking steps in the right direction.
> Based on their results... Do note that they make it very, very, very clear that their results are preliminary, and while they've put a whole lot of work into setting up benchmarking on Linux, they're not at all sure that they've got it all correct. > ie: very inconsistent frametimes on Nvidia hardware Yeah, Nvidia on Linux for non-"compute" use has always been a terrible, godawful shitshow. Given Nvidia's recent an…
Nvidia’s Open Kernel Modules are good so far and the in-kernel Nova driver project also seems promising though some way off. I’m running a 5000 series card with Nvidia OKMs and so far it has been a really smooth experience.
Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming
#294I have a special spot that gets extremely annoyed when I feel I have to spend a necessary time just figuring out what something is. The page suffers from "developer-brain" marketing, where they describe the technology used to build it (cloud-native images) rather than what the product actually is. Why not just lead with that it is a Linux distro/version focused on gaming. In the beginning, I thought it was new hardwa…
"The next generation of Linux gaming - Bazzite makes gaming and everyday use smoother and simpler across desktop PCs, handhelds, tablets, and home theater PCs." Are we reading the same website?
Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming
#295I have a special spot that gets extremely annoyed when I feel I have to spend a necessary time just figuring out what something is. The page suffers from "developer-brain" marketing, where they describe the technology used to build it (cloud-native images) rather than what the product actually is. Why not just lead with that it is a Linux distro/version focused on gaming. In the beginning, I thought it was new hardwa…
"The next generation of Linux gaming - Bazzite makes gaming and everyday use smoother and simpler across desktop PCs, handhelds, tablets, and home theater PCs." Are we reading the same website?
It is the site made like a presentation, in my experience they are all suck and like a real presentation are impossible to comprehend without accompanying speech.
Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming
#296I have a special spot that gets extremely annoyed when I feel I have to spend a necessary time just figuring out what something is. The page suffers from "developer-brain" marketing, where they describe the technology used to build it (cloud-native images) rather than what the product actually is. Why not just lead with that it is a Linux distro/version focused on gaming. In the beginning, I thought it was new hardwa…
Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming
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That could apply to everything from some sort of software service, to a game installer, to a streaming service, to an App Store for cross-platform games. You have to take into account the chaos that is the Internet and the promotional material shit storm of marketing speak. A sentence extremely close to this could easily be found on the top of the Razer Synapse promotional page. Why not lead with a simple description…
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#298At this point, I have almost 30 years of daily driving Linux desktop experience, and several decades of professional Linux experience. I have tried and kind of liked NixOS and although I prefer the simplicity of Arch Linux, I see how it would be useful in a professional scenario with lots of servers to upkeep. But Fedora Atomic confuses the hell out of me. To recommend it to potential Linux newbies and as the great n…
I help run a small Linux gaming community and at least once a day on the Discord (yes it’s a problematic service but that’s another rant) there is someone trying to install a mod or set up some piece of sim hardware, having recently switched from Windows, and being confused by FlatPak or by system immmutability.
It feels like these things are a double edged sword, on the one hand they are less prone to break they system and not under and why, on the other they now have a bunch of new roadblocks they don’t understand nor fully comprehend the purpose of. I can’t think of a better alternative but I sort of feel that the technology isn’t the issue, more like lack of a good FTUE which provides low friction education about how the system works and why that is beneficial. To use a bit of a tired analogy, it seems to me that a certain proportion of users are being thrown a nice big fish but aren’t being helped to understand what a fishing rod is, let alone able to fish for themselves.
I think I’m really just echoing other users’ comments about how a lot of the experience doesn’t really deliberately speak to people who are barely technical and just want things to work. The sort of people who run an iPhone because it’s simple, and whose response to windows acting weird is to just reinstall it.
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#299Earlier quoted context omitted.
Same feeling here. Realistically, what is this distro doing that couldn't just be done with a quick bash script on whatever the current 'new user distro' is? The wording is weird too : "Comes with Lutris preinstalled!". Would Windows users switch to a different hypothetical "Windows Distro" that was optimised for gaming? None of this makes any sense to me.
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Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming
#300I have a special spot that gets extremely annoyed when I feel I have to spend a necessary time just figuring out what something is. The page suffers from "developer-brain" marketing, where they describe the technology used to build it (cloud-native images) rather than what the product actually is. Why not just lead with that it is a Linux distro/version focused on gaming. In the beginning, I thought it was new hardwa…
That's not "developer brain" but marketing speak! Lots of websites for technical products are like this - generalities galore. Usually the open source ones just say what they are.