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Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

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Re: Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

#22

Had a conversation with the Zigbook maintainer. It’s either a young kid or somebody that has some serious growing up to do. Just generally weird behavior.

Indeed: @zigbook changed the title "Fix license violations" "Im mad because you wrote code similiar to mine >:(" 3 minutes ago (https://github.com/zigbook/zigbook/pull/43)

Re: Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

#23
post #6

since zig is famously decentralized, i don't think there is a way to effectively combat bad actors like these? there is no "official zig org" that can disown them

Its the opposite in my understanding. Zig has a BDFL. Trademarks are the usual cudgel of choice to enforce a bad actor claiming to be part of offcial Zig.

But he isn’t. He’s just writing an AI slop book about Zig. Surely there’s nothing legally wrong with that? He never said it’s an official book or backed by the Zig project.

The trademark cudgel is used on people who release an incompatible language that they insist on calling Zig, confusing people who want to try Zig. Or people who add malware to the Zig tool chain and try to distribute that.

Trademark can’t be used to control bad actors like zigbook.

Re: Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

#24

Had a conversation with the Zigbook maintainer. It’s either a young kid or somebody that has some serious growing up to do. Just generally weird behavior.

Indeed: @zigbook changed the title "Fix license violations" "Im mad because you wrote code similiar to mine >:(" 3 minutes ago ( https://github.com/zigbook/zigbook/pull/43 )

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Re: Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

#26
post #12

Plagiarism is a moral wrong. But copyright infringement is a legal wrong (a civil liability). Is what they're doing infringing on a copyrighted work? Or does it fail to uphold license terms? Many open source licenses have some amount of attribution as a requirement, so that'd be something to consider.

It's addressed in the post. MIT license. Zigbook is not honoring the attribution requirement. A PR to change that was closed and obfuscated.

> Zigbook is not honoring the attribution requirement

It's crazy how many people treat MIT as if it were public domain.

Re: Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

#27

Had a conversation with the Zigbook maintainer. It’s either a young kid or somebody that has some serious growing up to do. Just generally weird behavior.

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Was that not changed after feedback?

Re: Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

#28

I just can't get over how ridicioulus the "no ai" statement is. I really love the part where llm.txt has the same notice, something humans will never read, or the fact that llm.txt exists considering that there is distaste for AI in every part of this llm generated book.

"Not generated by AI" is something that every programmer everywhere is going to say about their own work, even when it's obviously AI generated. I've started to publicly call people out when I see they've posted something on social media (LinkedIn, etc.) when I see they've made an AI-generated post. The fraud has to stop.

Re: Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

#29
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Misinformation and poor learning tools can do real damage to the experience of new zig users, which is incredibly meaningful.

Censorship is even worse

Requesting attribution (as the MIT license demands), hardly rises to the level of "censorship"

Re: Zigbook Is Plagiarizing the Zigtools Playground

#30
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Censorship is even worse

Requesting attribution (as the MIT license demands), hardly rises to the level of "censorship"

I think they are referring to the fact that the zigbook maintainer defaced the PR that fixed the license issue by editing out the PR description.
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