I was using Bazzite, but they started talking about potentially shutting it down due to a removal of 32-bit support. It seems a bit safer to choose one of the mainline Fedora spins. Maybe Kinoite or Silverblue if you're into atomicity, though there's still some rough edges to be aware of.
Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming
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Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming
#202Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, my statement was Fedora was about to shoot itself in the foot and that it'd be easier for Bazzite to not exist than for us to clean up their mess. Note that this was in a change proposal which was rescinded without a vote by it's proposer.
Mmh, you definitely misremember that > As much as I’d like this change to happen, it’s too soon. This change would kill off projects like Bazzite entirely right as Fedora is starting to make major headway in the gaming space. > I’m speaking as it’s founder, if this change is actually made as it is written the best option for us is to just go ahead and disband the project. Now, whenever you would've actually shut down…
> Now, whenever you would've actually shut down the project is a different story, but your messaging was very clear.
The messaging was very clear that the upstream change would make Bazzite almost untenable.
It was a criticism of Fedora, not a threat to quit.
Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming
#203I was using Bazzite, but they started talking about potentially shutting it down due to a removal of 32-bit support. It seems a bit safer to choose one of the mainline Fedora spins. Maybe Kinoite or Silverblue if you're into atomicity, though there's still some rough edges to be aware of.
They were going to shut it down due to upstream Fedora considering ending 32-bit support. Sticking to upstream wouldn't have helped you avoid that issue.
Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming
#204Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, game companies are simply unwilling to pay for the talent and man hours that it takes to police their games for cheaters. Even when they are scanning your memory and filesystem they don't catch people running the latest rented cheat software.
Cheating is a social problem, not a technical issue. Just give the community dedicated server possibility (remember how back in the days games used to ship with dedicated server binaries?) and the community can police for free! Wow!
Yes, I would also prefer that servers were community run as in the hl2 days.
I would still argue that there are technical issues leading to some amount of cheating. In extraction shooters like Hunt Showdown, Escape From Tarkov and a few others, people can run pcie devices that rip player location and other information from the machines memory in order to inject it into an overlay with a 2nd computer, and they do go to these lengths to cheat, giving them a huge advantage. It wouldn't be possible to rip that info from memory for these "ESP cheats" if the server didn't needlessly transmit position information for players that aren't actually visible. IMO this is a technical failure. There are other steps that could be taken as well, which just aren't because they're hard.
Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming
#205I was using Bazzite, but they started talking about potentially shutting it down due to a removal of 32-bit support. It seems a bit safer to choose one of the mainline Fedora spins. Maybe Kinoite or Silverblue if you're into atomicity, though there's still some rough edges to be aware of.
They were going to shut it down due to upstream Fedora considering ending 32-bit support. Sticking to upstream wouldn't have helped you avoid that issue.
Why do you say that? If they drop 32-bit support, maybe I won't be able to play games for a time - at least until somebody rigs up a fix - but at least my operating system will still be supported.
If Bazzite goes poof overnight, though, that's a major problem. At least Fedora's official spins will continue to receive necessary updates.
Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming
#206As much as I love Bazzite at end of the day it's still a custom distro and every single day there is a chance they just close the project down and move on. Happened to so many distros in the past, this is not out of question. I’m not saying “big corporate” distros are better but personally I'd rather stick to something more mainline. Hopefully Valve will release a general version of SteamOS with Steam Machine coming…
I don't know why people bring this up so much whenever a new Linux distro shows up. I think one of the coolest things about Linux is that normal people can feasibly roll a useful distro. How much of a longevity guarantee do you need from a distro that is used for gaming, of all things?
> How much of a longevity guarantee do you need from a distro that is used for gaming, of all things?
Games are something I do to relax. I want as little friction to play the games as possible. For tech projects and work stuff having to mess with the OS and move away from deprecated stuff isn’t such a big deal, it’s part of the work. But for games I want them to just work as much as possible, I don’t want to have to find a new distro and install it and set everything up again on my gaming PC.
Despite Windows sucking in so many ways, it is the OS with the most assurance that a game will work without fuss. I am happy to see Linux closing this gap.
Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming
#207I've been using Linux forever (back to the mailed Ubuntu CDs days).
I installed this begrudgingly after fighting edge cases with Waydroid on Arch. It's the first "batteries included" distro I've actually liked. I usually hate the "omakase" approach, but the setup here is pretty much how I would've done it myself.
Side note: GNOME + Waydroid is the best experience I've had with a desktop OS on a tablet. Finding tools like scrcpy included out of the box was a nice surprise, too.
Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming
#208Earlier quoted context omitted.
Press "y" before linking to a Github file/line to ensure it stays accurate https://github.com/ublue-os/bazzite/blob/5e8f61a56ca3da02778...
I had no idea there was a hotkey for that. Thank you!
Even better, doing so allows GitHub to insert a source snippet if you paste a link like that into an issue or comment.
Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming
#209Earlier quoted context omitted.
Weren’t you threatening to shutdown Bazzite just a few months ago? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44381265
Someone on HN really ought to know the difference between a request for comment / change proposal and a dictat. If nothing else, the only way these problems ever get solved is by bringing them up, surfacing the issues and providing an impetus to get them solved.
difference between a request for comment / change proposal and a dictat.
Did you mean diktat?
Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming
#210I've been using Linux forever (back to the mailed Ubuntu CDs days). I installed this begrudgingly after fighting edge cases with Waydroid on Arch. It's the first "batteries included" distro I've actually liked. I usually hate the "omakase" approach, but the setup here is pretty much how I would've done it myself. Side note: GNOME + Waydroid is the best experience I've had with a desktop OS on a tablet. Finding tools…
I've been using linux since the days of downloading slackware on a stack of 1.44mb floppy disks. I gave up on linux gaming around 2007. I've revisited it this year, but it still sucks. it's just not worth it.
just relax, install windows and late the escapism take over.