A video shows difference between Bazzite, Nobara and CachyOS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqIjUddUSo0
Why others are better than Bazzite if it's made for gaming?
Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming
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Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming
#152I really wanted to give this a legitimate try but even following the installation instructions to the letter, it bricked my Windows install and I had to spend a few hours fixing the MBR, Bootloader, etc. I'm sure it would be a breeze using a separate physical drive but that'll be a project for another day. Bazzite does look very promising and happy to see innovation in the Linux gaming world!
Bazzite has a command, `ujust setup-boot-windows-steam`, which when run adds an entry to Steam-in-Bazzite that causes a Windows boot.
It also has a command `ujust regenerate-grub` which adds a Windows entry to the bootloader.
Each of these is a single command which only must be run one time after install. I suppose it could take a few hours to either do it by hand, or to discover one of these options, but they are both documented and in particular the guide at https://docs.bazzite.gg/General/Installation_Guide/dual_boot... (which you implied you followed) mentions the latter command.
It works on each of my Bazzite machines without any manual tinkering/intervention. Not sure why it would not Work On Your Machine (TM).
Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming
#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's mainly an nVidia issue. On AMD, Linux is actually faster and more stable compared to Windows.
There seems to be little evidence of that, at least from a reputable source. For some games it can be. For some games Proton performs far worse than Windows. It's not steady across the board. And some have stability issues, bugs, major performance problems, or just flat out don't work. I want Proton to be the future as well, but I think it's important not to oversell it as a drop-in replacement either. EDIT: GN highl…
FWIW, I wasn't the one who downvoted you. I can't even downvote here as I'm apparently "karmically broke". I have 468 karma, not sure how much I even need to downvote...
Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming
#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
Anticheat doesn't need to be Linux compatible, it needs to move server-side.
Agree 100%, client side anti cheat was never going to work.
To the downvoters: client-side anticheat simply cannot stop all the cheaters. Why? Because it's running on hardware that the cheater has full control over.
It has been (and continues to be) an enormous amount of effort, and some cheaters are absolutely going to get through anyway.
Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming
#155Its a nice distro, though personally I've been using EndeavourOS (Arch based but easier, think of it as the Ubuntu to Debian but for Arch). I wanted to try one of the Fedora Atomic distros but it just didn't boot correctly no matter what I tried, Endeavour just booted and worked and I havent looked back for over a year now... One insanely underrated Linux software is Lutris, if you have non-steam games, it is phenome…
I personally think everyone should install arch once the manual way. It will give you a good idea how everything fits together. After that, just use EndeavourOS. I used Antergos before that and EndevourOS has been great since.
My first Linux distro was Slackware. I think I will be okay.
Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming
#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
> 90% of games work fine, but many have weird bugs like crashing when you Alt-Tab out. This isn't particularly linux-y of an issue. I've had the same sort of behavior in numerous games on Windows, up to and including crashing the graphics driver when alt-tabing out of a full screen game. Seems to be something gamedevs are not commonly testing, and perhaps difficult to defend against when a game is directly interactin…
> Seems to be something gamedevs are not commonly testing, and perhaps difficult to defend against when a game is directly interacting with the GPU. I can guarantee you any gamedev worth his salt will have used alt-tab at some point in the game's development on windows. It's an incredibly common hotkey to use, and the devs very likely have multiple ides, notepads, image editing software running concurrently. You seem…
> I can guarantee you any gamedev worth his salt will have used alt-tab at some point in the game's development on windows.
Not exactly a repeatable testing framework, that.
> You seem to be trying really hard.
I almost strained a typing finger! /s lol
> Most devs are using cross platform graphics APIs. OpenGL/DirectX/Vulkan. Alt-tab breaking is likely an OS issue.
All the OSes seem to suffer from it similarly. More likely an issue that even the cross-platform graphics APIs rely heavily on shared memory buffers and most games depend on code written in languages which aren't strictly memory safe. Sharing a memory buffer between CPU and GPU (or even just multiple CPU cores) is quite difficult to do safely under all possible circumstances without proper language support.
Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming
#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
What you just said is the reason why I use Ubuntu for my company and not something else. It is about risk of lack of support obviously.
SuSE would be a better option then, IMO. Not only have they been around much longer (1994 vs 2004), they offer much better support compared to Canonical. And as a bonus, you don't need to put up with any of the continuous enshittifications Canonical subjects you to (Snaps, increasing poor quality code etc).
The funny thing about SuSE, and admittedly I haven't touched it for over a decade now: Everyone I knew who used it touted that it had great enterprise support as a reason for using it, but everybody I knew that used SuSE used OpenSuSE. This was over ~20 years of providing Linux support, RHEL-based and Ubuntu were by far the distros we dealt with the most.
One issue I had with OpenSuSE was that once a new release drops you have around 6mo to migrate all your machines over to it. Which, for most businesses, is a pretty short timeline, in my experience.
I've always preferred authoring RPMs over debs, but Caninical having basically one distro without the forks, I think is a huge benefit for a business using them.
Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming
#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's mainly an nVidia issue. On AMD, Linux is actually faster and more stable compared to Windows.
There seems to be little evidence of that, at least from a reputable source. For some games it can be. For some games Proton performs far worse than Windows. It's not steady across the board. And some have stability issues, bugs, major performance problems, or just flat out don't work. I want Proton to be the future as well, but I think it's important not to oversell it as a drop-in replacement either. EDIT: GN highl…
> There seems to be little evidence of that, at least from a reputable source.
I dunno. I remember a little while back some reviewers got a hold of both a Windows version and Linux version of a handheld gaming machine that had exactly the same hardware. The conclusion reached was that the Linux version was better in nearly every way.
As I remember it, a little while after this happened, some muckety-muck in the Gaming Division in Microsoft announced something like "We're making a new committment to consistent, high performance in Windows on handheld gaming devices! We're going to ensure all those little game-spoiling roadblocks are removed!". Which, like, good job making it NOT look like you're spasmodically reacting to bad press, guy.
Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming
#159Earlier quoted context omitted.
There seems to be little evidence of that, at least from a reputable source. For some games it can be. For some games Proton performs far worse than Windows. It's not steady across the board. And some have stability issues, bugs, major performance problems, or just flat out don't work. I want Proton to be the future as well, but I think it's important not to oversell it as a drop-in replacement either. EDIT: GN highl…
> There seems to be little evidence of that, at least from a reputable source. I dunno. I remember a little while back some reviewers got a hold of both a Windows version and Linux version of a handheld gaming machine that had exactly the same hardware. The conclusion reached was that the Linux version was better in nearly every way. As I remember it, a little while after this happened, some muckety-muck in the Gamin…
Handhelds and desktop PCs can perform differently. It's very possible for Proton to perform better for handhelds but worse for desktop PCs.
Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming
#160Earlier quoted context omitted.
Agree 100%, client side anti cheat was never going to work.
To the downvoters: client-side anticheat simply cannot stop all the cheaters. Why? Because it's running on hardware that the cheater has full control over. It has been (and continues to be) an enormous amount of effort, and some cheaters are absolutely going to get through anyway.
Right, you cannot control hardware you do not own and have in your possession. A cheat that uses another computer and a camera to watch the screen and emulate a mouse is an effective aimbot that no client side method will ever detect. The future must be server authoritative net code and behavior-based server-side cheat detection.