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Post by venturecruelty »

gtest wrote: post #9

I hope for your recovery, and that you will be able to live a long and fulfilling life. However, I want to challenge you with one thing: > Ethics matter. > I don't believe there's any life after this one... > I don't believe that faith is an out, or that you can apologize or donate your way out of past behaviors. Why would it matter if there is no life after this one? If there is no life after this one, maybe you sho…

Some people don't need a deity to treat others the way they would like to be treated.

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Post by joshcsimmons »

JuniperMesos wrote: post #30

> 3. Ethics matter. I don't believe there's any life after this one, but I find myself ruminating on what I've done. In 2015, I had a lot of interaction with a startup incubator you know well, and ended up sitting in the discussions and planning around banning and erasing a young programmer we considered a threat to our financial interests, due to his concerns about authoritarianism in technology. In retrospect, he w…

Something disturbingly similar happened to me in 2015. It took me a LONG TIME to build my life back after that. There are STILL certain opportunities that are off limits to me and likely always will be.

I’m pretty sure I know who you are.

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Post by joshcsimmons »

divbzero wrote: post #10

The decision was made to ban him here, try to get him fired though I don't know if we succeeded, and attack him with sockpuppets on Reddit, and it seems to have worked because you don't hear his name much. Ten years later, I'm still stuck thinking about this. Am I the kind of person who does shitty things? I was. Am I still? How would I even know? Corporations and governments often get flak for doing shitty things, b…

Recognition is cheap without implementing a fix.

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Post by nrhrjrjrjtntbt »

reneberlin wrote: post #4

Get a dog ASAP after recovering and don't look back. Mark my words and send the first pics with the puppy after you recovered elegantly. Of course you will make it, and if not, you wont care anyway. You'll make it. I'll wait for the pics. PS: But take that existential eye-opener serious and use it (you might later forget and drift from that in everyday-default-mode). You could print and frame this post to make it unf…

Get a dog. If you can and are willing to look after the dog for 15 years, be willing to train it well in the first 10 months, prepared for cost and vet bills etc. etc. I wouldnt want a puppy when in recovery unless someone else is fully looking after him.

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Post by wakawaka28 »

>I don't believe that faith is an out, or that you can apologize or donate your way out of past behaviors. You will always be the person who has done what you have done.

Although you can't completely undo the past, you can choose to do things to make it right. People do change. Your attitude is self-defeating and is setting you up to act on more bad impulses in the future.

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Post by [deleted] »

smitty1e wrote: post #19

> 3. Ethics matter. I don't believe there's any life after this one Serious, non-troll question: why bother? If there isn't any scope outside of the current perceived existence, and we're all so much "smart dirt", then the difference between kindness and malevolence seems moot. Note: I do subscribe to an explicit meaning to life, so this is posed more to express bewilderment at the alternative than reveal any anxiety…

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Post by ranger_danger »

roxolotl wrote: post #13
gtest wrote: post #9

I hope for your recovery, and that you will be able to live a long and fulfilling life. However, I want to challenge you with one thing: > Ethics matter. > I don't believe there's any life after this one... > I don't believe that faith is an out, or that you can apologize or donate your way out of past behaviors. Why would it matter if there is no life after this one? If there is no life after this one, maybe you sho…

Because other people matter and building a caring and just society means we’ll all get further in the one life we have. If you require the threat of eternal punishment to do the right thing and be a good person I’d question if you truly are.

Of course not everyone can or will do the right thing without being threatened with punishment... but I think it's possible to make the world a better place in general if we can at least tone down the amount of bad things happening, even if it requires "threatening" the people that need it to behave.

Otherwise I think laws wouldn't exist.

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Post by tEMporality7 »

divbzero wrote: post #10

The decision was made to ban him here, try to get him fired though I don't know if we succeeded, and attack him with sockpuppets on Reddit, and it seems to have worked because you don't hear his name much. Ten years later, I'm still stuck thinking about this. Am I the kind of person who does shitty things? I was. Am I still? How would I even know? Corporations and governments often get flak for doing shitty things, b…

Most people realize the shitty things they have done only at a time like this. The ones who actually care, take or at least try to take the necessary steps to prevent it from happening at all.

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Post by n2d4 »

JuniperMesos wrote: post #30

> 3. Ethics matter. I don't believe there's any life after this one, but I find myself ruminating on what I've done. In 2015, I had a lot of interaction with a startup incubator you know well, and ended up sitting in the discussions and planning around banning and erasing a young programmer we considered a threat to our financial interests, due to his concerns about authoritarianism in technology. In retrospect, he w…

    > it would compromise your anonymity to say more
By saying he was part of these conversations, the people he talked to almost certainly already know who he is (if necessary, the fact he's undergoing through surgery definitely tells them). Not sharing the details about this sounds more like he doesn't want this individual to be rehabilitated. (Assuming this entire thing is not made up.)
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