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Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming

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Post by riffic »

haunter wrote: post #21

As much as I love Bazzite at end of the day it's still a custom distro and every single day there is a chance they just close the project down and move on. Happened to so many distros in the past, this is not out of question. I’m not saying “big corporate” distros are better but personally I'd rather stick to something more mainline. Hopefully Valve will release a general version of SteamOS with Steam Machine coming…

Universal Blue is under very little risk of just shutting down operations without warning (as opposed to a hype-based BFDL kinda situation like Omarchy). I'm a happy Bluefin user and would wholly recommend people step up to help out with the distro if possible.

Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming

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Post by foxheadman »

cyberrock wrote: post #67
haunter wrote: post #21

As much as I love Bazzite at end of the day it's still a custom distro and every single day there is a chance they just close the project down and move on. Happened to so many distros in the past, this is not out of question. I’m not saying “big corporate” distros are better but personally I'd rather stick to something more mainline. Hopefully Valve will release a general version of SteamOS with Steam Machine coming…

Sadly SteamOS doesn't support full disk encryption, which is inexcusable for an OS used on a portable device, that some also use to remote access their desktop (through Steam Link/Moonlight).

Encrypted home directories are coming to the Steam Deck, using the same kernel API that Android uses. https://lwn.net/Articles/1038859/

FDE would be nice though.

Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming

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Post by d3Xt3r »

rdudek wrote: post #89

How does it compare to CachyOS? I'm not too familiar with how immutable OS actually works or what is the deal with flatpacks. I have a system that I kind of want to have Linux forward with Windows on secondary m.2 drive to dual boot if I need something there. Following protonDB, I see all the games that I play work just fine and are either gold or platinum status. Would you recommend Bazzite or Cachy? I main do gamin…

Technically its performance is a bit slower than CachyOS, and some of the package versions can be a bit behind as well (like Mesa or the kernel), which can contribute to the slowness. Flatpaks work fine though for the most part.

I would recommend CachyOS if you're after raw performance and you're technically inclined, and don't mind ocassionally going into the terminal to fix something or do some maintenance (maybe once or twice a year).

Bazzite on the other hand is great if you don't care much about minor FPS improvements, but value your time and system stability more. I have both installed, and use Bazzite when I want stuff to "just work" and not think about updates and maintenance. I use it for work, and for braindead gaming (ie I'm back from work and just want to dive into gaming without needing to worry about any PC stuff).

Both OSes are fine for docker/dev workflow. Multiple versions of python isn't an issue on ANY Linux system, as you would never be installing them across the system, you'd be installing them in a container or a sandboxed environment. I'd also recommend checking out Flox[1] as a fast and lightweight alternative to containers, it's great for working with Python in particular.

[1] https://flox.dev/

Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming

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Post by d3Xt3r »

emsixteen wrote: post #25

Will hop over to one of these the day that the AAA multiplayer titles I want to play are supported. I know it's down to the anticheat, but I still wanna play 'em. Hopefully Valve are able to push that forward.

If your definition of "AAA" includes Arc Raiders and Marvel Rivals, then good news, they work.

But if your definition specifically refers to shooters like Fortnite or BF6, then yeah, they're not going to work. Except CS of course, but not sure if CS counts as "AAA" in your books.

Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming

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Post by surajrmal »

d3Xt3r wrote: post #103
cyberrock wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sadly SteamOS doesn't support full disk encryption, which is inexcusable for an OS used on a portable device, that some also use to remote access their desktop (through Steam Link/Moonlight).

It doesn't need to, if your disk supports OPAL2 - just set the password in BIOS and encrypt the drive, it's fully transparent to the OS and as a bonus, there's virtually no performance hit unlike software-based encryption like LUKS.

Luks can use hardware offload description via opal if configured accordingly. You are also at the vendors firmware implementation in terms of security.

Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming

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Post by d3Xt3r »

sbarre wrote: post #87
MrDrMcCoy wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anticheat doesn't need to be Linux compatible, it needs to move server-side.

Honest question: given all the companies and people working on anti-cheat systems for the last 20+ years of multiplayer video games, don't you think it would all be server-side if it could be, by now?

No, because most companies will make decisions based on time/effort/profitability, and because client-side anticheat is stupid simple and cheap, that's what they go with. Why waste their own server resources, when they can waste the user's?

Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming

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Post by KyleGospo »

darcien wrote: post #116
akmittal wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bazzite also mention > improved CPU schedulers for responsive gameplay, on their homepage https://bazzite.gg/

Oops you're right, I was searching the docs and couldn't find it, maybe it's time to snoop around in their repo...

You can use any sched-ext scheduled on Bazzite.

Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming

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Post by d3Xt3r »

ecshafer wrote: post #11

Outside of console or handheld like experiences, I am not sure what this distro gives that Mint, proprietary nvidia drivers and Steam dont give me? I basically just download windows games as external applicationd through steam and use proton. Though I suppose a one click like “run this as proton” and “run this in this proton environment” could be useful. But once you learn how to change targets its not super complica…

The entire point of Bazzite and other immutables is that you get a rock solid system that you never ever have to worry about breaking.

Atomic updates means updates either apply or don't: there's no partial/fail state that can stop your PC from working. And in the rare event that an update has issues, you can instantly boot the previous two images, without typing any commands or using any fancy restore tools. And if you're a bit tech savvy (ie you know how to type a single command), you can even go back upto the last 90 days worth of images (via github).

The best part of atomic updates is OS upgrades, they work flawlessly. In fact since updates are delivered as images, an OS upgrade is no different to any other regular update, unlike regular distros like Mint where you have to cross your fingers and hope that your system still works after a dist-upgrade (and I believe Mint's official stance was that they didn't support dist-upgrades, they recommend you to backup, format, clean-install and restore with every OS release. Not sure if that policy has changed now, but that used to be their stance for a very long time).

Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming

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Post by porkloin »

wiradikusuma wrote: post #126

I want to create a "gaming streaming platform" like Stadia as a weekend project, does anyone know where to get started? Basically where the input device and the game are in different machines.

Sunshine is a great open source game streaming stack, and has client applications for tons of platforms, usually under the name "moonlight". Bazzite makes setting that up on a host (machine running the game) dead simple.
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