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Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming

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Post by KyleGospo »

haunter wrote: post #91
KyleGospo wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi, I'm the founder. While what you're saying isn't impossible, it's unlikely. In the event it did happen, Bazzite is a fork, a signing key, and a couple forked Fedora Copr repos away from being made completely in someone else's control.

Oh no I didn't mean as a personal attack or anything so thanks for taking your time and for the reply! I know the chances are miniscule but there is that 1% in the back of my brain because it happened in the past with some distros I've really liked

You're good -- didn't take it as one.

It's an important question to ask.

Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming

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Post by akmittal »

darcien wrote: post #100

Recently I learned about CachyOS, it has custom scheduler to run things smoothly, including games. And SteamOS is also doing the custom scheduler for games. From what I can find, Bazzite doesn't seem to use custom scheduler. Does these custom scheduler bring noticeable gains during usage? My previous linux desktop was a non-gaming distro, so I'm a bit curious on these fancy stuffs. - BORE, CachyOS scheduler: https://…

Bazzite also mention

> improved CPU schedulers for responsive gameplay,

on their homepage https://bazzite.gg/

Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming

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Post by sunshowers »

mmh0000 wrote: post #93
KyleGospo wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi, I'm the founder. While what you're saying isn't impossible, it's unlikely. In the event it did happen, Bazzite is a fork, a signing key, and a couple forked Fedora Copr repos away from being made completely in someone else's control.

Weren’t you threatening to shutdown Bazzite just a few months ago? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44381265

No? Clearly outlining the pitfalls of a proposal is not a threat.

Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming

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Post by d3Xt3r »

germandiago wrote: post #65
haunter wrote: post #21

As much as I love Bazzite at end of the day it's still a custom distro and every single day there is a chance they just close the project down and move on. Happened to so many distros in the past, this is not out of question. I’m not saying “big corporate” distros are better but personally I'd rather stick to something more mainline. Hopefully Valve will release a general version of SteamOS with Steam Machine coming…

What you just said is the reason why I use Ubuntu for my company and not something else. It is about risk of lack of support obviously.

SuSE would be a better option then, IMO. Not only have they been around much longer (1994 vs 2004), they offer much better support compared to Canonical. And as a bonus, you don't need to put up with any of the continuous enshittifications Canonical subjects you to (Snaps, increasing poor quality code etc).

Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming

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Post by darcien »

akmittal wrote: post #112
darcien wrote: post #100

Recently I learned about CachyOS, it has custom scheduler to run things smoothly, including games. And SteamOS is also doing the custom scheduler for games. From what I can find, Bazzite doesn't seem to use custom scheduler. Does these custom scheduler bring noticeable gains during usage? My previous linux desktop was a non-gaming distro, so I'm a bit curious on these fancy stuffs. - BORE, CachyOS scheduler: https://…

Bazzite also mention > improved CPU schedulers for responsive gameplay, on their homepage https://bazzite.gg/

Oops you're right, I was searching the docs and couldn't find it, maybe it's time to snoop around in their repo...

Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming

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Post by d3Xt3r »

Night_Thastus wrote: post #104

For anyone interested in some gaming benchmarks, Gamer's Nexus (a reputable source with good methodology) has some numbers here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovOx4_8ajZ8 Based on their results, it sounds like there's still quite a way to go Linux gaming/Proton (ie: very inconsistent frametimes on Nvidia hardware), but it's definitely been taking steps in the right direction.

That's mainly an nVidia issue. On AMD, Linux is actually faster and more stable compared to Windows.

Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming

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Post by Night_Thastus »

d3Xt3r wrote: post #117
Night_Thastus wrote: post #104

For anyone interested in some gaming benchmarks, Gamer's Nexus (a reputable source with good methodology) has some numbers here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovOx4_8ajZ8 Based on their results, it sounds like there's still quite a way to go Linux gaming/Proton (ie: very inconsistent frametimes on Nvidia hardware), but it's definitely been taking steps in the right direction.

That's mainly an nVidia issue. On AMD, Linux is actually faster and more stable compared to Windows.

There seems to be little evidence of that, at least from a reputable source.

For some games it can be. For some games Proton performs far worse than Windows. It's not steady across the board. And some have stability issues, bugs, major performance problems, or just flat out don't work.

I want Proton to be the future as well, but I think it's important not to oversell it as a drop-in replacement either.

EDIT: GN highly recommends against apples-to-oranges comparisons of the two, but even looking at their own data for AMD cards (with exact same CPU, RAM, and motherboard) it clearly shows Proton being behind on the order of 6-15%. Not a lot, but not ahead either. You can compare the numbers for the AMD cards against this video's here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yP0axVHdP-U

EDIT 2: Instead of just down-voting because the result makes you unhappy, how about responding with well-sourced proof otherwise?

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