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Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming

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Post by pockybum522 »

bigyabai wrote: post #48
haunter wrote: post #21

As much as I love Bazzite at end of the day it's still a custom distro and every single day there is a chance they just close the project down and move on. Happened to so many distros in the past, this is not out of question. I’m not saying “big corporate” distros are better but personally I'd rather stick to something more mainline. Hopefully Valve will release a general version of SteamOS with Steam Machine coming…

Any operating system could close down and move on. I'm 100x more concerned that Windows is going to become a cloud service than I'm worried about Bazzite shutting down.

I get what you're saying in this comment. And separate from that concept I'm adding on: "Going to?"

Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming

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Post by tempest_ »

entropie wrote: post #23
tempest_ wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I personally think everyone should install arch once the manual way. It will give you a good idea how everything fits together. After that, just use EndeavourOS. I used Antergos before that and EndevourOS has been great since.

> It will give you a good idea how everything fits together. The actual user does not give any shits. And while I love tinkering around and understand my OS/distro/$software I can absolutely relate. Linux should be at last so accessible that most of the things just work and a broad audience can just use their computer.

It isnt so much tinkering vs learning how it works.

Part of the reason new users struggle so much is because they forget they have spent 10 years or whatever using windows / macos and linux is definitely not those.

As much as Linux has become far more user friendly in the last couple years it still has its warts and a quick boot camp like installing arch can be very beneficial.

Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming

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Post by suprjami »

spiralcoaster wrote: post #26
haunter wrote: post #21

As much as I love Bazzite at end of the day it's still a custom distro and every single day there is a chance they just close the project down and move on. Happened to so many distros in the past, this is not out of question. I’m not saying “big corporate” distros are better but personally I'd rather stick to something more mainline. Hopefully Valve will release a general version of SteamOS with Steam Machine coming…

Right, because the idea of Linux has always been about sticking to big corporate distros whenever possible

Not necessarily a corporate distro, but there is somewhat more sustainability in a project based on Debian or Arch than an individual with a bunch of organically handmade scripts.

Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming

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Post by fritzy »

haunter wrote: post #21

As much as I love Bazzite at end of the day it's still a custom distro and every single day there is a chance they just close the project down and move on. Happened to so many distros in the past, this is not out of question. I’m not saying “big corporate” distros are better but personally I'd rather stick to something more mainline. Hopefully Valve will release a general version of SteamOS with Steam Machine coming…

SteamOS is only going to support other hardware by coincidence. Valve is unlikely to put in resources beyond the hardware that they want to support. It's also unlikely to change the whole "firmware restore, entire drive" approach. They're not going to put in the resources or support work into making and maintaining a full distro by themselves.

A community distro (be it a console-like gaming focused distro or not) is going to be the way to be the way to go for the foreseeable future. I'm pretty happy with running EndeavorOS w/ KDE, Steam, and Heroic. The Steam client with Proton is where most of the magic happens in Linux anyway. If I wanted to get fancy, I could set up GameScope with Steam Big Picture to take a SteamOS/Bazzite approach.

Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming

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Post by SamDc73 »

I’ve been using it for a couple of months on my main dev machine (I don’t game much). It’s my first exposure to immutable systems.

I love the idea, but honestly, juggling all these package managers gets annoying really fast; for now what I use is rpm-ostree (which you really shouldn’t touch unless you absolutely have to), Flatpak, Homebrew (some package are mac only or mac first), and distrobox (with arch).

Every now and then I think of going back to arch cause they are the only distro that made it very convenient to install some obscure packages that is only used by handful of people

Like yesterday, I tried setting up Flutter with the Android SDK command-line tools and the rest of the Android dev stack, and it took me almost 2 hours to get everything working; On Arch? That’s just a few packages, all sitting right there in the main repo or the AUR.

Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming

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Post by bigyabai »

pockybum522 wrote: post #51
bigyabai wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any operating system could close down and move on. I'm 100x more concerned that Windows is going to become a cloud service than I'm worried about Bazzite shutting down.

I get what you're saying in this comment. And separate from that concept I'm adding on: "Going to?"

We all know how this ends: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-365

Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming

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Post by MrDrMcCoy »

emsixteen wrote: post #25

Will hop over to one of these the day that the AAA multiplayer titles I want to play are supported. I know it's down to the anticheat, but I still wanna play 'em. Hopefully Valve are able to push that forward.

Personally, I hope that corporate rootkits will never be permitted on Linux in any form. Game studios need to learn that anticheat needs to live on the server side where it belongs.

Re: Bazzite: Operating System for Linux gaming

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Post by MrDrMcCoy »

xiconfjs wrote: post #42
emsixteen wrote: post #25

Will hop over to one of these the day that the AAA multiplayer titles I want to play are supported. I know it's down to the anticheat, but I still wanna play 'em. Hopefully Valve are able to push that forward.

We can only hope Valve‘s new „console“ will hit the market strong so they have another levarage to push the studios to implement appropiate, linux compatible anti-cheat.

Anticheat doesn't need to be Linux compatible, it needs to move server-side.
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