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Datacenters in space aren't going to work

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Re: Datacenters in space aren't going to work

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Post by awei »

LegionMammal978 wrote: post #38
awei wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We also have to build a lot more solar and nuclear in addition of the datacenters themselves, which we need to do anyway but it would compound the land we use for energy production.

Yet a colossal number of servers on satellites would require the same energy-production facilities to be shipped into orbit (and to receive regular maintainence in orbit whenever they fail), which requires loads of land for launch facilities as well as processing for fuel and other consumable resources. Solar might be somewhat more efficient, but not nearly so much so as to make up for the added difficulty in cooling…

It makes sense, I would be curious to see the price computations done by the different space GPUs startups and Big Tech, I wonder how they are getting a cheaper cost, or maybe it is marketing.

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Post by throwaway198846 »

Waterluvian wrote: post #40
doctorzook wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is it my job to train the machines?

If you would kindly consult your Human HR Universal Handbook (2025 Edition) and navigate to section 226.8.2F, you’ll be gently reminded that it’s the responsibility of any and all employees to train their replacements.

Where can I find a copy?

Re: Datacenters in space aren't going to work

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Post by Avicebron »

vintermann wrote: post #39

Always remember the magic words: dual use technology. The people pushing these aren't saying to you that they want to build data centers in space because conventional data centers are at huge risk of getting bombed by foreign nations or eventually getting smashed by angry mobs. But you can bet they're saying that to the people with the dual-use technology money bag. Or even better, let them draw that conclusion thems…

At this point I wouldn't be surprised if a non zero number of pitch meetings start with, "in order to not disrupt your life too much as the mobs of the starving and displaced beat down your door"

Re: Datacenters in space aren't going to work

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Post by widforss »

vintermann wrote: post #39

Always remember the magic words: dual use technology. The people pushing these aren't saying to you that they want to build data centers in space because conventional data centers are at huge risk of getting bombed by foreign nations or eventually getting smashed by angry mobs. But you can bet they're saying that to the people with the dual-use technology money bag. Or even better, let them draw that conclusion thems…

The reason why we don't see satellite-targeting missiles is not because the problem is hard. All relevant actors are capable of that.

Re: Datacenters in space aren't going to work

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Post by jhanschoo »

ReptileMan wrote: post #5
yardie wrote: post #4

I asked Google for more information about AI datacenter in space. This was the first sentence, 'AI data centers are being developed in space to handle the massive energy demands of AI, using solar power and the vacuum of space for cooling.' > After laughing at "the vacuum of space for cooling" I closed the page because there was nothing serious there. Basic high school physics student would be laughing at that senten…

You can radiate the excess energy away on the non-sun facing part. In theory.

You can radiate the excess energy away on the non-sun facing part on Earth almost just as well..., though corrosion is an issue.

Re: Datacenters in space aren't going to work

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Post by wiz21c »

throwaway198846 wrote: post #42
Waterluvian wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you would kindly consult your Human HR Universal Handbook (2025 Edition) and navigate to section 226.8.2F, you’ll be gently reminded that it’s the responsibility of any and all employees to train their replacements.

Where can I find a copy?

you have to steal it from the HR department. They do have a copy but they won't tell you.

Re: Datacenters in space aren't going to work

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Post by throwaway198846 »

vintermann wrote: post #39

Always remember the magic words: dual use technology. The people pushing these aren't saying to you that they want to build data centers in space because conventional data centers are at huge risk of getting bombed by foreign nations or eventually getting smashed by angry mobs. But you can bet they're saying that to the people with the dual-use technology money bag. Or even better, let them draw that conclusion thems…

It is far easier to build them at remote places and bunkers (or both). Even at the middle of the ocean will make more sense and provide better cooling (See Microsoft attempt at that).

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Post by Waterluvian »

throwaway198846 wrote: post #42
Waterluvian wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you would kindly consult your Human HR Universal Handbook (2025 Edition) and navigate to section 226.8.2F, you’ll be gently reminded that it’s the responsibility of any and all employees to train their replacements.

Where can I find a copy?

Please consult your Human HR Universal Handbook (2025 Edition) on how to request a new copy of the Human HR Universal Handbook (2025 Edition). I believe it's in Volume III Section 9912.64.1 or thereabouts.

Re: Datacenters in space aren't going to work

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Post by [deleted] »

cuuupid wrote: post #20

I don't agree with the logic that "something is hard/can't be done right now" is equivalent to "this is a terrible idea and won't work." There are dozens of companies solving each problem outlined here; if we never attempt the 'hard' thing we will never progress. The author could have easily taken a tone of 'these are all the things that are hard that we will need to solve first' but actively chose to take the 'catas…

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