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Re: Can Dutch universities do without Microsoft?

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Post by seanieb »

BenFranklin100 wrote: post #186
seanieb wrote: post #21

I spent the past year working for a company that relies heavily on Microsoft for email, productivity tools, and identity management. After that experience, I can say with confidence: never again. The support is astonishingly poor, and user experience feels like an afterthought. More importantly, using Microsoft at scale can leave your organization fundamentally insecure. The obscure, insecure defaults are, at best, d…

This is blatant nonsense. The best security choice for any small business that doesn’t have a dedicated full time security staff is Microsoft 365.

Have you admined a Google Apps account and an MS365 account? I'm curious why you think Microsoft is more secure? For me they are completely different, Google is secure by default, Microsoft is not. Do you have "Direct Send" enabled on your account for example?

Re: Can Dutch universities do without Microsoft?

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Post by project2501a »

nightfly wrote: post #175
project2501a wrote: post #89

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Where do I find money to fund my rewrite of Kerberos 5 in Rust, removing the dumb options and Kerberos 4 compatibility and eventually create Kerberos 6 + AD that will solve a metric buttload of issues in Linux and knock a major peg of MS off?

What issues on Linux would this actually solve?

simplify gssapi, for one. single authentication and authorization: submit on slurm? ask kerberos + ldap. can i upload to this service? as kerberos + ldap. Policies applied on this computer? ask kerberos + ldap

i may be naive a bit, i'll accept that, but I really like how AD works (which is essentially kerberos + ldap)

Re: Can Dutch universities do without Microsoft?

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Post by anonzzzies »

canyp wrote: post #184
anonzzzies wrote: post #152

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When they want something to be done, it just gets done. I guess that is the point; I was working in China when one year there were 0 electric scooters; the next year, only. Gas scooters were forbidden overnight basically and that was that. Try doing that over here...

Hilarious. Such efficiency, not even the free markets can catch up! Also, curious: did you not like it there and left, or was that a fixed-duration contract or something?

I loved it (still go on holiday), but the sentiment changed (during/after HK + Covid) and clients started to demand non-china produced electronics so we had to leave.

Re: Can Dutch universities do without Microsoft?

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Post by arianvanp »

I studied at Utrecht University and all the programming classes in the Bachelor were C#, Visual Studio, XNA, DirectX. Windows. Database class i had to learn in Proprietary Microsoft tools too. All Microsoft stuff. Sure nobody would complain if you did stuff on Linux but all the support by TAs and teachers was on Microsoft platforms only.. The Master was much better but the Bachelor basically was grooming people to become Microsoft consultants.

If the rot starts at the core of your education curriculum there is no saving your dependence on Microsoft.

I always found this choice puzzling to teach people proprietary technologies in a public institution. This was before DotNet core and VSCode was a thing and Microsoft hadnt whitewashed themselves to look like an open source friendly brand yet.

Re: Can Dutch universities do without Microsoft?

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Post by lukan »

Loughla wrote: post #190
lossolo wrote: post #181

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> US's goal there wasn't to win anything since there's nothing of value there War is only a tool, dominating a country or region militarily is not the same as winning a war if you have not achieved its political goals. In Afghanistan, those goals were not achieved, which means the war was lost.

What were the goals for Afghanistan?

Destroying Al Quaida and their host, the Taliban. Al Quaida might be gone, but I believe Taliban are in power today and the US left in a not so glorious way after giving up fighting them.

Re: Can Dutch universities do without Microsoft?

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Post by philipp-gayret »

arianvanp wrote: post #194

I studied at Utrecht University and all the programming classes in the Bachelor were C#, Visual Studio, XNA, DirectX. Windows. Database class i had to learn in Proprietary Microsoft tools too. All Microsoft stuff. Sure nobody would complain if you did stuff on Linux but all the support by TAs and teachers was on Microsoft platforms only.. The Master was much better but the Bachelor basically was grooming people to be…

I had a similar experience at a different university in NL, practically the entire curriculum was Oracle & Cisco.

Re: Can Dutch universities do without Microsoft?

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Post by pessimizer »

input_sh wrote: post #65
ramon156 wrote: post #27

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I can't fathom why you would give one parlement all the power. This is the root issue of America right now, individual states have less and less power every year.

I would argue that the root issue in America right now is that you have one guy that can pass 200+ executive orders in less than a year completely bypassing the other two supposed branches of government. There's no such position or a branch in the EU. None of the three can make any sort of change of their own.

The executive can't bypass the courts with an executive order, unless you've seen something I haven't. The reason Congress doesn't do anything is because it ceased to be a functioning body sometime around the AUMF. Congresspeople realized that doing anything other than what the donors paid for is fraught with risk. Better to watch things being done and complain about it. The UK went the same way, concentrating all power in the current government with even backbenchers being absolutely powerless.

I guess the only thing saving the EU from the same fate is its powerlessness and indecisiveness. The people who run it are certainly insane in the same way as the leaders of the UK and the US. You're both crippled from your lack of federalization and protected by it.

edit: In the US, our real problem is that our executive (including the intelligence agencies) can do whatever it wants without an executive order or a coherent legal rationale, they will simply never be prosecuted. The next executive will proclaim that the illegal acts under the last one will never be tolerated again, pardon everybody who did it, and make those acts legal from now on.

Re: Can Dutch universities do without Microsoft?

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Post by pbreit »

arianvanp wrote: post #194

I studied at Utrecht University and all the programming classes in the Bachelor were C#, Visual Studio, XNA, DirectX. Windows. Database class i had to learn in Proprietary Microsoft tools too. All Microsoft stuff. Sure nobody would complain if you did stuff on Linux but all the support by TAs and teachers was on Microsoft platforms only.. The Master was much better but the Bachelor basically was grooming people to be…

I've gone without Microsoft products for many years now. It's SOOOOO much better.

Re: Can Dutch universities do without Microsoft?

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Post by lokar »

project2501a wrote: post #189
lokar wrote: post #172

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Kerberos solves the problem that doing public key authentication is slow on a i386

kerberos solves the problem that you can have short one time tokens using your password. Add public key infrastructure support, make ldap the default store and you got AD. Even better, you can throw all the OAuth crap down the drain. now, starting services with a password becomes an issue of booting the machine.

No one would build KRB4/5 today, it makes no sense. It's only advantage over an X.509 cert based system is speed on really really slow CPUs.

Re: Can Dutch universities do without Microsoft?

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Post by saubeidl »

vunderba wrote: post #53
saubeidl wrote: post #9

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> "Europe" is, unlike the US, not a single entity It really needs to be, though, that's kind of the crux of it. Federate or die off, it's time to get rid of old tribal thinking. We're all Europeans.

What could go wrong with more centralization of power… https://reclaimthenet.org/eu-council-approves-new-chat-contr...

This article is about the Council, which is comprised of the heads of the various nation states, i.e. the positions more centralization of power would get rid of.
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