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Louvre's content was mostly acquired fairly at market prices?
GP is likely referring to the British Museum, which is famous for having stolen goods.
France was a colonial power and an attempted empire too...
Louvre to hike ticket prices for most non-EU tourists by 45%
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I’d wager that you could 10x for non-EU tourists and still make more money and have way less crowds leading to a better experience for all.
Lol, I mean, if we ignore the experience of all the people who are priced out, then sure? Appreciation of culture shouldn't be reserved for the rich.
Being priced out doesn't mean you can't appreciate the culture, you just can't visit it in person. It still can be possible to experience remotely via computers.
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
Lol, I mean, if we ignore the experience of all the people who are priced out, then sure? Appreciation of culture shouldn't be reserved for the rich.
Botswana vs Kenya is an interesting example of this that I've experienced first hand. Kenya is overcrowded with safari tourists, which ruins the experience and very much effects the wildlife dynamic. Botswana has many fewer tourists on safari and so protects the natural environment better, but it does this by pricing themselves such that only rich people can afford it.
Pricing things high is an easy and effective way of limiting demand. I wish more people understood it's not always greed.
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
Lol, I mean, if we ignore the experience of all the people who are priced out, then sure? Appreciation of culture shouldn't be reserved for the rich.
Botswana vs Kenya is an interesting example of this that I've experienced first hand. Kenya is overcrowded with safari tourists, which ruins the experience and very much effects the wildlife dynamic. Botswana has many fewer tourists on safari and so protects the natural environment better, but it does this by pricing themselves such that only rich people can afford it.
Interesting, I think you have to consider the system as a whole and the impacted stakeholders when considering pricing.
In your example, if we consider the environment a stakeholder, and the fact that increased safari impact has a negative impact on the ecosystem, there's a stronger argument for higher price.
In the case of the Louvre, the paintings and sculptures aren't going to be harmed by having more eyeballs on them, so, there's a stronger case to maximize access.
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Depends on your point of comparison - the British Museum is free.
Well, they got their exhibits for free, didn't they?
Funny line-- but I think it's important to highlight how the Brits were able to find value and unlock a history in objects that other cultures stopped caring about.
While people like to say they "stole" things, there's no evidence they ever took something that others actually cared about or took the least interest in protecting. The Elgin marbles were just flopped around a field and no locals seemed to care at all. Some of the items were purchased directly from their owner at a price negotiated with a willing seller.
I think the British museum is proof of how scholarship and gentle care can preserve our past and create something that people love to visit and learn about.
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#46The fact that the price is being dramatically raised to the grand total of $37 says more about how fantastically cheap it is to visit the Louvre currently. They could easily double that and not see any noticeable decrease in ticket sales from tourists.
Assuming you're American you may be missing just how strong the USD is and how expensive $37 is for much of Europe. -You- consider it cheap and that's the whole point of the price rise.
Compared to the price of a round-trip plane ticket to Paris, hotel, and food for the whole trip, this ticket increase is immaterial for anyone who's already well-off enough to be a tourist. And the whole point of the article is that the price increase is only for non-EU citizens.
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#47Trying to recoup their recent losses? Doesn't feel right though to make a distinction based on country of origin. What about "égalité"?
> What about "égalité"?
Much like the egalitarian individualism of other western cultures, the idea applies to “our culture” not “the entire world”. This system falls apart otherwise because bad faith participants can easily exploit it. And I’ll add, your argument omitting that key point is one of the common ways people exploit it.
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Lol, I mean, if we ignore the experience of all the people who are priced out, then sure? Appreciation of culture shouldn't be reserved for the rich.
Being priced out doesn't mean you can't appreciate the culture, you just can't visit it in person. It still can be possible to experience remotely via computers.
I don't really think that is a similar experience, there's something about seeing paintings in the flesh that simply can't be recreated digitally. The texture, the scale, the colours...
Maybe one day if VR becomes commoditized and freely available.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, they got their exhibits for free, didn't they?
Funny line-- but I think it's important to highlight how the Brits were able to find value and unlock a history in objects that other cultures stopped caring about. While people like to say they "stole" things, there's no evidence they ever took something that others actually cared about or took the least interest in protecting. The Elgin marbles were just flopped around a field and no locals seemed to care at all. S…
Such a kind British museum offering to maintain these artifacts to the point of denying return to the origin countries when requested. Clearly this is for the preservation of our past and the benefit of humanity.