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FileZilla Pro "Perpetual License" – A Warning to All Users
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#112Since when GitHub is a blogging platform?
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#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, it says expired.
So then you didn't buy a lifetime subscription? Why would you get access to the software for lifetime, if you ordered only a 1, 3 or 5 year license? Your right to receive updates is limited to the time that you selected when you ordered FileZilla Pro. If you have, infact, ordered a "Perpetual License", then you would have agreed to the Terms and Conditions when ordering FileZilla (here's a random old copy: https://we…
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What an incredible load of excuses and rationaizations. The fact is they don't owe anyone any backups or any reasons. I guess you will just have to go on feeling abused and robbed. Go ahead and try to sue them for theft and fraud if you think your argument actually holds water.
Is forgetting to back up an installer really that bad of an excuse? I don't even know what you're calling a "rationalization". And this isn't about what they legally owe, this is about them having very bad customer support.
We all agree, even me, that it's not the most cutomer-first policy. Except, maybe it is actually the most customer-first, because their support & security argument is not bullshit. If there are things wrong with the old version that they know about, then it is entirely valid to decide not to actively help facilitate the proliferation of old bad versions that still have their name on it out in the world. Maybe they don't have the policy for such pure and virtuous reason, or maybe they do, but it doesn't matter because it's actually perfectly valid anyway.
The fact you don't like it is purely a you problem.
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#115So my first inclination wouldn't be to try filezilla but archive.org. After that I'd search for other options and see what was most trustworthy.
I've done well with oldversions.com in the past. Last I heard they were still reputable. http://www.oldversion.com/windows/filezilla/
Even without knowing which version the author is looking for, I'm betting I could locate a suitable copy.
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Is forgetting to back up an installer really that bad of an excuse? I don't even know what you're calling a "rationalization". And this isn't about what they legally owe, this is about them having very bad customer support.
The rationalization is that since in your opinion it wouldn't cost them very much to give you something, that they really owe it to you and if they don't give it to you, they are actually withholding something and you are being denied something you have a right to. We all agree, even me, that it's not the most cutomer-first policy. Except, maybe it is actually the most customer-first, because their support & security…
The reason they should do it is because it helps their customers get what they paid for.
They have a solution to the problem, and sharing the solution costs nothing, but they refuse to share it.
There doesn't need to be an obligation to make that refusal asshole behavior.
At no point am I rationalizing anything here. I'm not even a customer.
> Except, maybe it is actually the most customer-first, because their support & security argument is not bullshit. If there are things wrong with the old version that they know about, then it is entirely valid to decide not to actively help facilitate the proliferation of old bad versions that still have their name on it out in the world.
Moving toward a world where users can't use that version but have no replacement is not customer-first.
> The fact you don't like it is purely a you problem.
Why do so many people act like it's invalid to complain about legal company actions? Complaints about bad service give warning to other potential customers, and might get the company to change things for the better.
Companies can have bad support, and that risks them getting bad reviews.
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#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Hosting licensed copies of software is the norm. Steam does it, Google does it, Apple does it, EA and Ubisoft do it Correct me if I'm wrong, but they do not store previous versions for you to choose, only the current version.
If you have an iphone on an old version of ios, you can install the latest version of some software you bought/downloaded for free compatible with that ios version.
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> Obviously, a VM wouldn't be a suitable environment for FileZilla. Why not? VMs can be given access to the host file systems.
Do you sell vms or something? It's absurd to even consider running an entire os in a vm just to use the calculator or the notepad.
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#120I have installation media for MS Office 2010 in my desk drawer. If I lose the disc, I wouldn't expect Microsoft to replace it for me. I'm afraid I don't really understand what the author is angry about here.
Why... not? You paid for that software.
... and forgot to make a backup. Nothing lasts forever.