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Same-day upstream Linux support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5

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Re: Same-day upstream Linux support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5

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post #85

Does KVM hypervisor work? Previous Qualcomm CPUs have locked hypervisor mode behind Qualcomm proprietary blobs, and only allowed HyperV to use it - this was definitely the case for WOS laptops.

The original Oryon systems allowed you to boot directly into EL2 and skip Gunyah via BIOS settings. I assume this will be the same.

Which ones, where? On X1 laptops that shipped with Windows, you can only escape into EL2 via Secure Launch: https://github.com/TravMurav/slbounce

Re: Same-day upstream Linux support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5

#152
post #13

> Hardware-accelerated video playback of H.264 (AVC), H.265 (HEVC) and VP9 video streams > Hardware-accelerated video recording into H.264 (AVC) and H.265 (HEVC) formats no mention of AV1? Surprised since most websites including YT uses it heavily.

The Qualcomm marketing spec sheet mentions AV1 decoding: https://www.qualcomm.com/content/dam/qcomm-martech/dm-assets... Maybe that part of the driver isn't finished yet?

Yes. It is on the mailing list: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20251001-av1_irisdecoder-v1-0-9f...

It actually introduces new things into the UAPI because no one else did fully-stateful AV1 decode before.

Re: Same-day upstream Linux support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5

#153
post #4

Has Qualcomm seen the light after working with Valve on Steam Frame? The news that Steam Frame would be running an open source Adreno GPU driver really caught me by surprise.

My impression from the emulation folks is that the proprietary drivers are chock full of problems. I suspect it was open source drivers or nothing (i.e., back to an AMD x86 solution like the Steam Deck). (And I don't think Qualcomm has seen the light - my understanding is that the Turnip drivers are purely reverse engineered.)

Qualcomm has several full time employees working on Mesa (Freedreno/Turnip). They probably must have access to some documentation now..

Re: Same-day upstream Linux support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5

#154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The drivers, while impressively reverse-engineered, are basically alpha-quality by Linux standards. Even well-studied M1 machines will have spotty support in comparison to what an OEM can provide officially.

Those that are implemented have been very reliable in my experience, I think that labeling them “alpha-quality by Linux standards” is a ridiculous claim

Then you need an Intel or AMD laptop as a frame of reference. M1 is implemented as-is with much of the silicon's onboard accelerators entirely dark. Hardware accelerated video encode/decode is a lost cause, Thunderbolt will likely never happen, NEON is your fastest SIMD accelerator and cpuidle is still not really figured out.

Those are all perfectly acceptable limitations for a POC. And the GPU drivers are particularly well-made. But it doesn't really come close to how seriously AMD and Intel take Linux.

Re: Same-day upstream Linux support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5

#156

If anybody in Qualcomm leadership is reading this thread: this is a good start, and I applaud you for it. There is also a lot more to do if you're serious about growing your market penetration beyond phones. The drivers might be up on LKML, but they're not mainlined yet. And this is just gen5. It would be great if you could fix your gen4 and 4.5 drivers, so that people building products with your chips weren't stuck…

Second best, after Apple.

Re: Same-day upstream Linux support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5

#157
post #137

If anybody in Qualcomm leadership is reading this thread: this is a good start, and I applaud you for it. There is also a lot more to do if you're serious about growing your market penetration beyond phones. The drivers might be up on LKML, but they're not mainlined yet. And this is just gen5. It would be great if you could fix your gen4 and 4.5 drivers, so that people building products with your chips weren't stuck…

Yeah that page smells like a pr stunt. Go all in or go home, qualcomm.

You'd rather have nothing it seems.

Re: Same-day upstream Linux support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5

#160

Qualcomm did this in 2024. They pushed some patches to LKML, and issued a press release to brag about it. ( https://www.qualcomm.com/developer/blog/2024/05/upstreaming-... ) Yet 2 days ago, Tuxedo Computers announced they were abandoning Qualcomm due to crap support. ( https://www.theregister.com/2025/11/26/tuxedo_axes_arm_lapto... ). In particular, the long battery runtimes – usually one of the strong arguments for…

>Yet 2 days ago, Tuxedo Computers announced they were abandoning Qualcomm due to crap support. (

Does Apple offer better support? Qualcomm offers commercial support. I guess Tuuxedo Computers didn't pay for the support?

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