Happy Thanksgiving / Happy post-Cranberry day!
Also: National Day of Mourning for some Native Americans
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Tell HN: Happy Thanksgiving
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#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
The term "slave" encompasses a lot of wildly different kinds of unfree labor. The racialized system most people think of from transatlantic slavery is a very recent thing. Nothing resembling that was widespread in precolumbian North America. The earliest similar systems I'm aware of took root in the 17th and 18th centuries, well into the early colonial period.
Research what the Iroquois did to the Huron people, what the Apache did to the Pueblos, and what the Aztecs did to everybody. The continent what a slaughter show for thousands of years.
What I said was a much more precise statement than "there was no violence". Nothing you've mentioned is a counterexample.
The slaves of early 17th century Iroquois were not dehumanized property like colonial era natives and Africans. This is what I meant by pointing out that the term "slavery" encompasses a vast number of radically different types of unfree servitude.
The Apache example is both not similar to Atlantic slavery, and mainly from the 18th century period where I specifically said such systems existed among North American natives.
If you're trying to make a point about the racial hierarchy within the Aztecs, the term Mexica is much more precise. If you're just referring to the slave social class within the empire itself, I can't imagine why you think it's remotely similar to colonial slavery. Aztec slaves weren't property in the sense of colonial era slavery. They had to consent to sale, only their labor was actually sellable, and it wasn't hereditary, among other differences.
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this always gets brought up, but realistically no one ever cares or brings this up from the perspective of celebrating American origins, but rather just a reminder to be thankful for things in your life that matter to you. I don't see the problem with this
> realistically no one ever cares or brings this up from the perspective of celebrating American origins
It's still a very common narrative that's historically been an integral part of the myth around this holiday. And it's simply a fact that the Wampanoag and other tribes of the Eastern U.S. even to this day dedicate what we call Thanksgiving as a National Day of Mourning; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Day_of_Mourning_(Unit... A similar memorial gathering is held on Alcatraz Island: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unthanksgiving_Day
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#74Thanks HN! I regularly open HN during lectures. There is no better way to show my students what software engineering entails and why I focus on certain topics.
Is SCRUM really as great as its evangelists claim? Let's read HN comments.
What are good use cases for UML? Let's check out HN.
Does anyone actually care about CoCoMo or CMMI? Let's read ... oh - nearly nobody's talking about it there. Maybe it won't be that relevant to the students.
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#75Happy Thanksgiving! This is the only site that passes my threshold for signal-to-noise ratio. I genuinely learn from discussions here. It humbles me to be on the same webpage as some of the most knowledgeable, ambitious, thoughtful folks across the globe. Thanks everyone for your active participation.
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#76Almost 12 years of HN. I'm still a lurker, I'm sorry I don't contribute more, but I don't have much time and reading HN with a coffee in the morning is the best thing I can do. Thx everyone involved <3
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#77Just looked it up: 14 years already and very proud to be a part of this community. :-)
Happy Thanksgiving
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#7818 years. The site has become a hotbed of political discussion recently, and I do wish the manual unflagging was stopped, but other people are right when they say that Startup News/Hacker News has remained relevant for far longer than other sites that started around the same time. The only one I can think of that stayed relevant for that long is Ars Technica.
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#79Happy Thanksgiving all.
Mostly a lurker. Been here over 10 years, but created my HN account 9 years ago. HN has been an invaluable source for me over they years.
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#80Eighteen years here. I am not American but I think this is a holiday that we can all celebrate as reminder that we should be grateful for what and specially for who we have, independently what we don't have.
A fellow 18-yearer here. I am very grateful for the discussions and insights and expertise and recollections I see every day from all over the world.