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This makes no sense. Just imagine you would get handcuffed tomorrow. Collateral damage. Blame some guy. Or a gal.
I'd be glad it's just handcuffs and not a bomb dropping on my head.
Same-day upstream Linux support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5
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Re: Same-day upstream Linux support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5
#42the year of linux on the arm desktop cannot come soon enough also, not to beat a horse that is by now six feet under, but > No delays, no hurry-up-and-wait, no registration. Just go get the new features. i'm so tired
i'm using Linux just fine on an ARM desktop for a long time, via Apple Silicon hypervisor enabled via the UTM macos app (which wraps both Qemu, which i don't use, and Apple Silicon hypervisor, which i do use, configurable when instantiating a new image from an iso).
i mention this because perhaps you'd like it too. in my case fedora 43 works just fine, and fast.
Re: Same-day upstream Linux support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5
#43Re: Same-day upstream Linux support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5
#44Can you buy this chip or is it only for Android phones? They have bad support for what you can buy (X Elite) but now they're touting upstreaming the chip you can't buy?
Re: Same-day upstream Linux support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5
#45Does that mean that one will be able to purchase tablets with this chip and replace the OS with Linux? That would be great. As far as I know, there currently are no options for lightweight tablets that support Linux. Not sure how well WSL2 on tablets work. Does anybody here have experiences with WSL2 on tablets like the new Microsoft Surface Pro that uses the Snapdragon X Elite chip?
I have the 8 gen 3 and wsl and hyperv work fine just can't really use x86 binaries / containers / operating systems.
I think the performance of x86 VMs would be pretty poor anyway due to the high overhead of TSO emulation. Windows ARM doesn't have the benefit of hardware assistance like macOS does, and the tricks that Microsoft came up with to mitigate the impact rely on metadata that only MSVC emits, so anything compiled with GCC or LLVM would always hit their emulators slow path.
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#46Re: Same-day upstream Linux support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5
#47Eh. The CPU might be supported in Linux, but all of the rest of the hardware to make a laptop is left dangling in the wind. Look at the X1E laptops to see how far "upstream Linux support for a CPU" gets you.
They aren't targeting enthusiasts with this announcement.
Re: Same-day upstream Linux support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5
#48Woah, this is amazing. I’ve been looking for an ARM Linux machine for a while and ended up about to get M2 Pros in a rack running Asahi. It has been near impossible to get a Snapdragon Elite machine. The IdeaCentre or whatever is 2x the cost / performance and as far as I know is poorly supported. This changes the game. I’d rather use native Linux than Asahi (though the latter is amazing).
Does this actually translate into any kind of probability of a manufacturer making a device with this chip?
Re: Same-day upstream Linux support for Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5
#49As someone who uses Mobile Linux, I am pretty excited to see this, but I can't help but wonder if this is only a "Business decision" and not necessarily Qualcomm turning over a new leaf for being FOSS friendly: - Their Snapdragon X laptop didn't do very well, and they likely realize an ARM Windows laptop will always be a second class citizen: https://www.techpowerup.com/329255/snapdragon-x-failed-qualc... . - Likewis…
It'll probably be as much of a second class citizen elsewhere (the real problem is the hardware hasn't as good as Apple Silicon laptops but has been in the same price class at the bottom) but it's good they chase everywhere rather than just one use case.