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We're losing our voice to LLMs

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Re: We're losing our voice to LLMs

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Post by hombre_fatal »

adamzwasserman wrote: post #2

It is not a zero sum game. I have always had a very idiosyncratic way of expressing myself, one that many people do not understand. Just as having a smartphone has changed my relationship to appointments - turning me into a prompt and reliable "cyborg" - LLMs have made it possible for me to communicate with a broader cross section of people. I write what I have to say, I ask LLMs for editing and suggestions for impro…

Transformation seems reasonable for that purpose. And if we were friends, I'd rather read your idiosyncratic raw output.

At some point, generation breaks a social contract that I'm using my energy and attention consuming something that another human spent their energy and attention creating.

In that case I'd rather read the prompt the human brain wrote, or if I have to consume it, have an LLM consolidate it for me.

Re: We're losing our voice to LLMs

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Post by the_af »

WD-42 wrote: post #5

Where are these places where everything is written by a LLM? I guess just don’t go there. Most of the comments on HN still seem human.

I've seen AI generated comments on HN recently, though not many. Users who post them usually only revert back to human when challenged (to reply angrily), which hilariously makes the change in style very obvious.

Of course, there might be hundreds of AI comments that pass my scrutiny because they are convincing enough.

Re: We're losing our voice to LLMs

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Post by ArcHound »

I think that this is imbalanced in favour of wannabe influencers, who want to be consistent and popular.

If you really have no metrics to hit (not even the internal craving for likes), then it doesn't make much sense to outsource writing to LLMs.

But yes, it's sad to see that your original stuff is lost in the sea of slop.

Sadly, as long as there will be money in publishing, this will keep happening.

Re: We're losing our voice to LLMs

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Post by heltale »

WD-42 wrote: post #5

Where are these places where everything is written by a LLM? I guess just don’t go there. Most of the comments on HN still seem human.

It’s pretty much all you see nowadays on LinkedIn. Instagram is infected by AI videos that Sora generates while X has extremist views pushed up on a pedestal.

Re: We're losing our voice to LLMs

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Post by Glemkloksdjf »

whatever1 wrote: post #16

It’s ok. Most of our opinions suck and are unoriginal anyway. The few ones who have something important to say they will, and we will listen regardless of the medium.

They get drowned by bots and missinformation and rage bait and 'easyness'.

Economy is shit? Lets throw out the immigrants because they are the problem and lets use the most basic idea of taxing everything to death.

No one wants to hear hart truths and no one wants to accept that even as adults, they might just not be smart. Just beause you became an adult, your education shuld still matter (and i do not mean having one degree = expert).

Re: We're losing our voice to LLMs

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Post by freejazz »

CityOfThrowaway wrote: post #13

In a lot of ways, I'm thankful that LLMs are letting us hear the thoughts of people who usually wouldn't share them. There are skilled writers. Very skilled, unique writers. And I'm both exceedingly impressed by them as well as keenly aware that they are a rare breed. But there's so many people with interesting ideas locked in their heads that aren't skilled writers. I have a deep suspicion that many great ideas have…

> In that way, perhaps we now have a monotexture of writing, but also perhaps more interesting ideas being shared.

They aren't your ideas if its coming out of an LLM

Re: We're losing our voice to LLMs

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Post by __MatrixMan__ »

Lapel2742 wrote: post #23
ricardo81 wrote: post #6

I deleted my Facebook account a couple of years ago and my Twitter one yesterday. It's not just LLMs, it's how the algorithms promote engagement. i.e. rage bait, videos with obvious inaccuracies etc. Who gets rewarded, the content creators and the platform. Engaging with it just seems to accentuate the problem. There needs to be algorithms that promote cohorts and individuals preferences. Just because I said to someo…

> it's how the algorithms promote engagement. They are destroying our democratic societies and should be heavily regulated. The same will become true for AI.

I agree, but focusing on "the algorithm" makes it seems to the outsider like it must be a complicated thing. Really it just comes down to whether we tolerate platforms that let somebody pay to have a louder voice than anyone else (i.e. ad supported ones). Without that, the incentive to abuse people's attention goes away.

Re: We're losing our voice to LLMs

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Post by glitchc »

ricardo81 wrote: post #6

I deleted my Facebook account a couple of years ago and my Twitter one yesterday. It's not just LLMs, it's how the algorithms promote engagement. i.e. rage bait, videos with obvious inaccuracies etc. Who gets rewarded, the content creators and the platform. Engaging with it just seems to accentuate the problem. There needs to be algorithms that promote cohorts and individuals preferences. Just because I said to someo…

Do LinkedIn as well. I got rid of it earlier this year. The "I am so humbled/blessed to be promoted/reassigned/fired.." posts reached a level of parody that I just couldn't stomach any longer. I felt more free immediately.

N.B. Still employed btw.

Re: We're losing our voice to LLMs

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Post by FranzFerdiNaN »

mkzet wrote: post #10

The Internet will become truly dead with the rise of LLMs. The whole hacking culture within 90s and 00s will always be the golden age. RIP

There are still small pockets with actual humans to be found. The small web exists. Some forums keep on going, im still shitposting on Something Awful after twenty years and it’s still quite active. Bluesky has its faults but it also has for example an active community of scholars you can follow and interact with.
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