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Crypto investors face tax crackdown as 70% non-compliant

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#21
Editing out because it can be misunderstood as a defense of tax evasion as per the child comment. I'll leave a quote from the cypherpunk manifesto instead

> We the Cypherpunks are dedicated to building anonymous systems. We are defending our privacy with cryptography, with anonymous mail forwarding systems, with digital signatures, and with electronic money.

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If a country gives you zero practical assurances when it comes to protecting your crypto assets, what is the tax for?

That's completely unrelated to taxes. The government does not give any assurance that any given company won't be totally worthless next year but they still have to pay taxes. Taxes aren't some type of insurance lol

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#25
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> Doyle says many crypto investors mistakenly think they can sell some Bitcoin to buy some Etherium, and that making that a switch like that did not trigger an obligation to pay tax. Make a stupid rule, be surprised people are non-compliant.

This is absolutely standard pretty much anywhere that has a capital gains tax.

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#26
post #6

If a country gives you zero practical assurances when it comes to protecting your crypto assets, what is the tax for?

The tax is for everything the state does. Your capital gains taxes aren't just a fee to the government in exchange for protecting your crypto, and it's weird to assume that they are.

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Article seems to suggest if you make gains but lost them later you still need to pay tax on the gain?! That's strange..

In America, the problem comes when the gain and the loss come in different years. If you make a big gain in 2024, but didn't pay taxes on that gain, then lose the money in 2025, they will come after you for failing to pay taxes in 2024 even though you no longer have the money in 2025. The lesson is to pay your taxes.

Re: Crypto investors face tax crackdown as 70% non-compliant

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post #5

Article seems to suggest if you make gains but lost them later you still need to pay tax on the gain?! That's strange..

It makes sense when you think about it. If you made a huge capital gain and then "lost" it in Vegas how is that different than "losing" it via other means? Also, if this wasn't the case, it'd be a massive, gaping loophole. "Oh, I settled this stock in another currency, so I don't owe taxes yet/ever". There are some situations where it maybe there should be an exception. When employee stock options are exercised, that…

People will spend vast sums of money to avoid paying a couple of thousand dollars for informed advice.

Re: Crypto investors face tax crackdown as 70% non-compliant

#30
post #5

Article seems to suggest if you make gains but lost them later you still need to pay tax on the gain?! That's strange..

You buy a bitcoin for 20,000. You sell it for 50,000. At this point you probably owe capital gains on 30,000. You then take the 30,000, use it to buy an NFT, and later sell the NFT for 0.01 (because NFT). At this point you have had gain of 30k and loss of 30k. Now, it's going to depend a lot on exactly when all this happened and in which jurisdiction, but in many countries you probably owe tax on the 30k.

Yo! Evil genious!
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