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Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by CoastalCoder »

__loam wrote: post #251
mmaunder wrote: post #208

They've abandoned GitHub for Codeberg because GitHub has ICE as a customer. Codeberg uses Paypal which is a member of the ICE "Virtual Global Taskforce". https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/top-story-industry-partner... There is a purity spiral that organizations can enter when they start doing this, which ends up with you shoving yourself into a cold dark corner of the internet and still not being completely detached…

It seems like every organization in America is compromised in some way if you dig deep enough. Certainly you can find reasons for every big tech. There's still a balance to be struck though.

> It seems like every organization in America is compromised in some way if you dig deep enough.

I agree, and my view is that it goes much further. Quoting author Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn:

"The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either—but right through every human heart—and through all human hearts.".

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by messe »

joelreymont wrote: post #372
mikelitoris wrote: post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

oh god... he has a humongous AI generated PR for julia too https://github.com/tshort/StaticCompiler.jl/pull/180

I had $1000 in Claude credits and went to town. Yes, I made mistakes along the way.

You've wasted other peoples time and mental energy with utter bullshit that you weren't even bothered to read yourself. Be more considerate in future.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by zdragnar »

jenadine wrote: post #561
aadishv wrote: post #419

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like that's the whole point of the OP. I agree with the overall post but mentioning the ICE relationship seems to detract from the main point. "I hate GitHub because X Y and Z features are bad" is a good reason to move away; "I hate GitHub because one of their thousands of enterprise customers does not align with my political views" is not, in my opinion. For the record, I do not support ICE

That's why the article put that reason aside

It could have done an even better job of putting it aside by not even mentioning it at all.

Instead we're all sitting here talking about it instead of the technical reasons.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by dlisboa »

tsimionescu wrote: post #293
pier25 wrote: post #216

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How is accessibility a political issue?

How is it not? In the not so distant past of the 1930s there were political parties advocating for the mass killing of people with disabilities, or at least the sterilization of those with heritable disabilities. There have been real campaigns in that period that did this type of forced sterilization, especially in some mental hospitals. You'll still find people espousing such beliefs, thankfully at the fringes for n…

> In the not so distant past of the 1930s there were political parties advocating for the mass killing of people with disabilities

Those parties still exist today.

- https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/fox-friends-h...

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by arp242 »

tsimionescu wrote: post #293
pier25 wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is accessibility a political issue?

How is it not? In the not so distant past of the 1930s there were political parties advocating for the mass killing of people with disabilities, or at least the sterilization of those with heritable disabilities. There have been real campaigns in that period that did this type of forced sterilization, especially in some mental hospitals. You'll still find people espousing such beliefs, thankfully at the fringes for n…

Going from "we're a small non-profit and we're struggling finding a good solution that's also accessible, this really sucks – we're sorry" to eugenics is quite a leap.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by Cloudef »

nromiun wrote: post #139

So much vague outrage over nothing. That CI system created by so called monkeys is the one of the best free CI service in the world. Not everyone has the millions of dollars like Zig Foundation to create their own CI servers. After that they appreciate GitHub Sponsors, but say it is now a complete liability just because a project leader left. What are the actual changes? Any new rule? But no, it is now a "liability"…

CI's job for me is to just run a nix flake

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by thrwyexecbrain »

PunchyHamster wrote: post #600

The arguments seem... really weak ? They just linked to some random obscure bug and an obscure OS not being supported in containers (and I'd imagine solution being "just bring your own runner"). I have... questions about Zig leadership

Do the arguments have to be strong? I do not think they need to provide any justification. If the core developers decided that they would be more happy (or less miserable) with a different service, then let them.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by flohofwoe »

nromiun wrote: post #449
silisili wrote: post #431

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Anyone who has ever used Gitlab, or dare my foul mouth say Jenkins, has experienced a better system than Github actions. Unless it's miraculously improved recently as it's been a couple years for me, they didn't even document their regex/pattern matching. Best I could find via searching was that it was whatever Ruby used, which wasn't any kind of real standard. I don't want to call anyone names, but whoever defends s…

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Github was great at the time when it replaced Sourceforge. But that was a long time ago and actually better alternatives are popping up left and right. And that's even without Microsoft's recent-ish enshittifaction process (e.g. letting everything rot that's not AI related). Githubs entire management and development process is simply broken beyond repair, monkeys at the wheel or not.

PS: also Gitlab CI is so much better than GH Actions that they are not even in the same league. It is very apparent that Gitlab is actually dogfooding their stuff, which is not the impression I get from any Github feature.

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