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Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by IshKebab »

ttiurani wrote: post #352

Looking at these comments, it's painfully apparent how many think that being polite in your communication is more important than actually doing something. I agree it would have been nicer if the message was more polite. But if you compare that to having the backbone follow through with meaningful long-term changes against a corporation you don't trust or respect, there shouldn't even be a discussion. And don't even g…

Nobody thinks that. They just don't think that "doing something" gives you an excuse to be an arsehole. Especially if you are hypocritically violating your own CoC.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by zwnow »

brabel wrote: post #409
zwnow wrote: post #325

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If people get hurt over that they need to take some courses on building confidence...

Right, those black people who get offended by being called that just need confidence, right? Those LGBT are so sensitive and can’t handle the colorful names we call them! Imagine that. This kind of comment shows how HN commenters can be so incredibly hateful while thinking they are righteous, which is the worst kind of people, it’s the atitude that leads to the most terrible policies and behavior ever seen on this pl…

Or you grow up and see these kinda things within the right context and brush off whats easy to brush off. Obvious racial slurs or discriminating insults towards a whole community is obviously something different. But you sound like the type of person to cancel a comedian over a joke.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by nromiun »

Groxx wrote: post #408
nromiun wrote: post #232

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They could have easily done that without all the insults.

I would agree if they weren't so clearly deserved. Calling shit out as being shit is fine.

Just because you think something is shit does not mean it becomes gospel for the rest of us. Millions of other people are fine with GitHub, respect their choice.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by KingMob »

prmoustache wrote: post #380
notepad0x90 wrote: post #172

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I don't know about that. in my view, you can call him a murderer, genocidal, sociopath, anything related to his actions. But calling him an epithet, comparing him to an animal is a different thing. Even physical violence is more tolerable. of course people can say whatever they want in private, i'm talking about public discourse. terms like "monkey" and "dog" have been used across cultures to mean really nasty things…

> comparing him to an animal homo sapiens is an animal species.

Tomatoes belong in fruit salad, and the cause of every plane crash is gravity.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by hinkley »

ttiurani wrote: post #352

Looking at these comments, it's painfully apparent how many think that being polite in your communication is more important than actually doing something. I agree it would have been nicer if the message was more polite. But if you compare that to having the backbone follow through with meaningful long-term changes against a corporation you don't trust or respect, there shouldn't even be a discussion. And don't even g…

Just the fact of someone migrating a project to another platform during the last week of November suggests that last straws were involved. That’s more of a January or a June thing than November/December.

Fury can be a powerful motivator to commit to doing something you’ve been putting off. It also means your community announcement is going to be pretty spicy, unless you let someone else write it.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by mlugg »

pikdum wrote: post #305

I'm not a fan of GitHub Actions either, but is there actually anything better nowadays? I've just come to accept it as the best of bad options.

Forgejo Actions is what Zig has migrated to. It's very similar to GitHub Actions; the downside of that is that you inherit questionable design choices, but the big upside is that migration is super easy. While they don't target 1:1 compatibility, things are similar enough that you basically only need to tweak workflow files very slightly. Our experience so far is that it fixes most of our serious problems with GitHub Actions; in particular, their runner software is significantly easier to deploy and configure, has much better target support (GitHub's runner is essentially impossible to use outside of x86_64/aarch64 linux/windows/macos; we tried to patch it to support riscv64-linux and got stuck on some nonsensical problems on GitHub's side!), and actually accepts contributions & responds to issues. My issues with the GitHub Actions' backend & web interface (of which I have many) are pretty much all gone, too, with no new issues taking their place.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by noodletheworld »

nromiun wrote: post #449
silisili wrote: post #431

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Anyone who has ever used Gitlab, or dare my foul mouth say Jenkins, has experienced a better system than Github actions. Unless it's miraculously improved recently as it's been a couple years for me, they didn't even document their regex/pattern matching. Best I could find via searching was that it was whatever Ruby used, which wasn't any kind of real standard. I don't want to call anyone names, but whoever defends s…

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Oh come on.

Micros$$$$ft owns github.

We don't need to give some pretend sympathy.

When you can afford to have good things, and you're not, don't come crying about getting called bad names.

Actions is bad.

> I dare anyone who is delusional enough to think they can create something better to actually make something better

Actions speak louder than words.

Zig is leaving because of the issues they mentioned.

> People tried other services like GitLab and realized it is slower, uglier and overall worse than GH and came crawling back.

Maybe. I guess we'll see.

I think the OP has been pretty clear that they're not happy with it, and, they're putting their money where their mouth is.

Clearly, just complaining about broken things isn't working.

Maybe a couple more big moves like this is what GH needs to wake up and allocate some more resources (that they, can categorically afford) to fixing things.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by Jean-Papoulos »

johnfn wrote: post #95

> it’s abundantly clear that the talented folks who used to work on the product have moved on to bigger and better things, with the remaining losers eager to inflict some kind of bloated, buggy JavaScript framework on us in the name of progress. > More importantly, Actions is created by monkeys This writing really does not reflect well on Zig. If you have technical issues with Github, fine: cite them. But leave ad ho…

I much prefer the authors of anything on the internet be honest about what they think instead of self-censoring their language. I really thought we all agreed on disliking Newspeak ?
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