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Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by wolvesechoes »

cookiengineer wrote: post #131
dsissitka wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe the incident: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41837782 https://dmpwn.info/

> dmpwn Kinda horrible to see that the 4chan bigots use the same strategy to try to discredit drew devault, and implying things of ownership through their own created fake accounts and smearing campaigns. Pretty much all allegations on that page are circumstantial evidence, especially the bot ownership parts that sircmpwn even took down while citing those bigots using it to scrape child porn. And then the dude of dmp…

> Kinda horrible to see that the 4chan bigots use the same strategy to try to discredit drew devault

No need, Drew does a good job himself.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by ifh-hn »

amake wrote: post #379
serial_dev wrote: post #238

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To add to it, the post is still calling people losers and monkeys, so the CoC is clearly not working properly.

Might as well get rid of laws against murder because sometimes people commit murder anyway?

Not the same thing at all. There's consequences for murder, absolutely none for not abiding by this CoC; as clearly seen by the fact the posted remains as is.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by KingMob »

kelnos wrote: post #368
hshdhdhj4444 wrote: post #245

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Code of Conduct cannot stop someone from doing something. It’s just a document. However, in this case, the presence of the code of conduct has made it trivially easy to point out the language as wrong in a way whoever wrote this for Zig cannot refute. It’s working exactly as it should.

How is it working? The post is still there, referring to people as "losers" and "monkeys". Was the author of the post chastised? Have they edited the post and apologized?

Heh. You've rediscovered Critical Race Theory, which was a graduate-level theory about how rules/laws are systematically applied to minorities/the powerless, and not applied to the powerful/project leaders.

Holding the powerful to the law is unfortunately, a separate issue to whether it's worth it to have written rules/laws in the first place.

A CoC could still be better than no CoC, even if it fails to rein in abuse from the top.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by freehorse »

ImHereToVote wrote: post #404
oaiey wrote: post #288

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not everyone is that robust. People get hurt over things like that. Not everyone is a wizard who does not give a fuck and does not need to care. These are people for God's sake. Empathy!

Feeling empathy for their pathetic fragile existence doesn't mean you sympathise with said fragility.

Not being able to control your anger issues and name calling ppl as a public face of your org sounds pretty fragile to me.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by aschla »

testdelacc1 wrote: post #289
johnfn wrote: post #95

> it’s abundantly clear that the talented folks who used to work on the product have moved on to bigger and better things, with the remaining losers eager to inflict some kind of bloated, buggy JavaScript framework on us in the name of progress. > More importantly, Actions is created by monkeys This writing really does not reflect well on Zig. If you have technical issues with Github, fine: cite them. But leave ad ho…

God this entire thread is just people defending him as “a breath of fresh air” and “just using human language”. There is something in people that makes them enjoy seeing others belittled like this. A complete lack of empathy, because no one would like to be treated this way themselves, but are perfectly happy seeing others treated this way. One commenter justifies it by saying “if I’m fucking up, it’s ok to speak to…

Many people are tired of the toxic positivity common in corporate speak, which lets poor performers off the hook, and prevents high-quality talent from speaking freely.

"A complete lack of empathy" is a bit of a stretch, no? Calling someone a monkey is fairly lighthearted, while getting the point across that maybe they should take stock of the awareness of their abilities.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by nromiun »

silisili wrote: post #431
nromiun wrote: post #139

So much vague outrage over nothing. That CI system created by so called monkeys is the one of the best free CI service in the world. Not everyone has the millions of dollars like Zig Foundation to create their own CI servers. After that they appreciate GitHub Sponsors, but say it is now a complete liability just because a project leader left. What are the actual changes? Any new rule? But no, it is now a "liability"…

Anyone who has ever used Gitlab, or dare my foul mouth say Jenkins, has experienced a better system than Github actions. Unless it's miraculously improved recently as it's been a couple years for me, they didn't even document their regex/pattern matching. Best I could find via searching was that it was whatever Ruby used, which wasn't any kind of real standard. I don't want to call anyone names, but whoever defends s…

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Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by Vespasian »

bikelang wrote: post #104
tonymet wrote: post #93

Coderberg is nice , but their P80s are terrible. And they are hosted in Germany, which adds a few seconds to every remote command . I wouldn’t move business critical repos there . Everyone loses their mind when GitHub goes down once every 2 years . If codeberg provided SLas , they would probably breach them weekly

I wish GH had issues only every 2 years. That’d be amazing! We see issues weekly - if not near daily - at work. Personally I advocate for self-hosted GitLab. I like their pipelines a lot more than GH Actions too.

We do have a on prem GitLab (ultimate) at work and I'm pretty happy with it all in all with around ~100 active daily users.

Privately Forgejo is fullfilling all my needs with very little maintenance work.

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