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Re: Bring bathroom doors back to hotels

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This is done, presumably, so people dont buddy up to save money on rooms. They'll be too shy or modest. So if its 4 people traveling, say 2 couples, they'll rent two rooms instead of one.

I can not even imagine sharing a room with another couple under any circumstances

Re: Bring bathroom doors back to hotels

#382

This is done, presumably, so people dont buddy up to save money on rooms. They'll be too shy or modest. So if its 4 people traveling, say 2 couples, they'll rent two rooms instead of one.

There are two possibilities:

They find this out in advance and find a 'normal' hotel and book a room there.

They find this out when they get to the hotel, complain to everyone, write bad reviews, never come back.

Lose-lose for the hotel (unless it's some remote destination with just one hotel there, but those are rare)

Re: Bring bathroom doors back to hotels

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Me neither, but I remember that when searching for hotels and Airbnbs, I only filter for hotels that are 8+/10 domestically and 9+/10 internationally, which filters out many of the hotels that have those kinds of issues (and score doesn't affect budget much).

Booking.com has this grade inflation issue. if something is shit but you rate everything else fairly (things like location, staff friendliness, etc), the final score will be 7 or 8.. in summary: I had a lousy experience, 7/10! It takes some experience to realize that a place graded 7.x probably has serious issues.

The problem here is that "mean" is a poor average. For hotels, if you're rating in 10 different categories, you really want a single 0/10 to bring the overall score down by way more than one point.

The opposite situation can also occur. At my university, entrance scholarships were decided a few years ago based on students' aggregate score across 25ish dimensions (I can't remember the exact number) where students were each rated 1-4. Consequently a student who was absolutely exceptional in one area would be beaten out by a student who was marginally above average in all the other areas. I suggested that rather than scoring 1-4 the scores should be 1/2/5/25 instead.

Re: Bring bathroom doors back to hotels

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post #366

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Also even in the single person case I want to have the bathroom door closed when I take a shower because it keeps the heat in. Which is why I also dislike (most of) the barn door style doors. I can't be the only one that likes to step out of the shower and into a nice and steamy room. Like what, you want to step out and be cold? That's masochistic. Not to mention no door doesn't bother me with another person because…

I don’t know how to ask this without it seeming like snark, but as genuinely as I can ask (and with the assumption that we otherwise agree there should just be a door): Why don’t you just turn on the heat in the room?

Locality and humidity.

I also don't mean to be snarky here, because I'm not sure how to say this in a way that can't be interpreted that way and feel like I'm just explaining being human...

The answer is really just physics. The feeling of comfort is generally about differential in temperature, not absolute. (That's also a logarithmic relationship too) So to have that nice feeling of stepping out of a hot shower then the room needs to be a decently high temperature. Mind you, you're also wet. This makes the temperature differential more influential. So two things happen when you dry off. You no longer have that water to transfer and maintain heat and you've also cooled down a bit. Now when you walk into the normal room temperature the differential isn't so bad.

If I turn the temperature up in the whole hotel room I will then have to turn it down. Now that introduced AC and we have the opposite problem... Plus both get rid of humidity.

To be snarky and try to be a bit humorous:

Haven't you ever noticed that 100F/38C is "hotter" and more uncomfortable in a humid environment than in a dry environment? Haven't you ever noticed that 15F/-10C is "colder" in a humid environment? Haven't you noticed that being in a hot tub or sauna is comfortable but if it was that temperature outside you'd be cursing the gods? Haven't you noticed that in the summer 50F/10C is cold and most people won't wear a short sleeve shirt yet if it was the winter that's a nice day to go out and wear shorts? Haven't you... lived in a body?

It's winter man, here's a trivial experiment for you:

  - Heat up your house:
    - Shower with door open
    - Shower with door closed
  - Don't heat up your house:
    - Shower with door open
    - Shower with door closed
Tell me the results. Which is the most comfortable? Also tell me your power bill for each day... You can figure this out in 4 days with essentially no cost of time or effort?

Re: Bring bathroom doors back to hotels

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post #257

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> Marriot,Hilton,IGT,Hyatt own almost all hotels in any area you want to go to. Best Western, Choice, Wyndham, IHG (typo?), Accor, Blackstone (Motel6), Radisson, Red Lion, Red Roof. Etc. There's lots of choices. Many (most?) hotels are franchises and the name on the hotel can change. I haven't run into a hotel with no bathroom door yet, but I only have 2-3 stays a year and one is usually in the same hotel every year.…

I was a bit surprised that a Marriott property I was staying in in NYC a couple weeks ago actually had daily housekeeping service. I didn't really care but hadn't seen that in a while.

Very common. Every Autograph Collection, Luxury Collection, JW Marriott, Marriott, Westin, W, St Regis, Le Meridien, etc has daily housekeeping - and many of those brands / collections have turn down service too.

Re: Bring bathroom doors back to hotels

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post #373

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Also even in the single person case I want to have the bathroom door closed when I take a shower because it keeps the heat in. Which is why I also dislike (most of) the barn door style doors. I can't be the only one that likes to step out of the shower and into a nice and steamy room. Like what, you want to step out and be cold? That's masochistic. Not to mention no door doesn't bother me with another person because…

I stayed in this place where the shower was directly adjacent to the bed, and the commode had its own separate room. https://hunters.com.co/ It had some other interesting problems.

Ahhhh... nothing like sleeping in a wet bed... full of mold...

It could have been worse. They could have put the toilet there and you could be smelling the sewer all night...

Re: Bring bathroom doors back to hotels

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> [...] it's a significant hygiene issue. How so?

Shit particles are literally blown into the surrounding air when flushing; closing the door and running the fan contains the mess. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet_plume

It feels like that wikipedia article was written by a motivated individual and hasn't received significant review...

> viruses & bacteria many of which are known to survive on surfaces for days

> Toilets are scientifically proven

> There is 70 plus years

Re: Bring bathroom doors back to hotels

#389
post #317

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> it's distinct from hygiene. Mold Not to mention that any bacteria thrives in more humid environments. They aren't so good at keeping moist. This is true for a lot of things, especially the smaller the thing is, including bugs. Higher humidity definitely makes good hygiene more difficult. Why do you think bathrooms have fans? That'd be a lot of effort to deal with farts.

Open the window or run the aircon.

Considering this and your other comments I really think you need to think a bit deeper about your answers. I believe in you, just ask "and then what happens" and I'm positive you'll figure it out.
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