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Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by xeonmc »

davidsainez wrote: post #56
bigyabai wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The absolute state of Github is that I use it dozens of times a day and it works flawlessly, for free, with intermittent outages. Microsoft is doing more with Github than I can say for most of their products. I won't go to bat for the Xbox or Windows teams, but Github is... fine. Almost offensively usable.

> works flawlessly > intermittent outages Those seem like conflicting statements to me. Last outage was only 13 days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45915731 . Also, there have been increasing reports of open source maintainers dealing with LLM generated PRs: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46039274 . GitHub seems perfectly positioned to help manage that issue, but in all likelihood will do nothing abo…

GitHub: 60% of the time, it works every time.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by [deleted] »

tonymet wrote: post #93

Coderberg is nice , but their P80s are terrible. And they are hosted in Germany, which adds a few seconds to every remote command . I wouldn’t move business critical repos there . Everyone loses their mind when GitHub goes down once every 2 years . If codeberg provided SLas , they would probably breach them weekly

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Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by echelon »

JuniperMesos wrote: post #109
echelon wrote: post #90

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It's completely fine for someone working on a programming language that is useful for some of the same things as Rust to compare that language to Rust, including in ways that make the language not seem as good. Indeed, this is useful information for someone who is using Rust and is considering using Zig (or vice-versa), or who is new to both languages and trying to figure out which is better for their use case.

You seem to be running a lot of interference in this thread.

In what way is the tone of the linked messages appropriate?

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by [deleted] »

brendoelfrendo wrote: post #107
johnfn wrote: post #95

> it’s abundantly clear that the talented folks who used to work on the product have moved on to bigger and better things, with the remaining losers eager to inflict some kind of bloated, buggy JavaScript framework on us in the name of progress. > More importantly, Actions is created by monkeys This writing really does not reflect well on Zig. If you have technical issues with Github, fine: cite them. But leave ad ho…

Nah, fuck 'em. Call out corpo bullshit where you see it. Github is just LinkedIn for people with compsci degrees now.

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Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by _heimdall »

kanwisher wrote: post #118
halJordan wrote: post #102

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The unfortunate truth is that this is where we are as a society. It doesn't reflect poorly on them. It reflects well. They're straightshooters. Theyre not afraid to speak candidly (your definition of candid may differ). They inject humor. You may not like it personally, but it doesn't reflects poorly even if it should. We're at the tail end of a long decline.

pretty sure there was no humor there, just looks poorly upon the author

It sure reads like it was meant satirically to me. Whether one finds it funny or offensive is up to the reader though, and I assume the GP is basically saying an article should be written such that "or offensive" isn't reasonably on the table.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by wewewedxfgdf »

Very questionable decision.

You're running what aims to be a major programming language - have it where people expect and live with your gripes about the platform.

In retail you set up your store in the biggest mall with the most customers walking past - sure you can go set up in some back alley but don't expect customers to come to your store. This remains true even if the mall owns forget to mop the floor.

This feels immature and does not give confidence in the project/language leadership.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by __turbobrew__ »

logicchains wrote: post #115
__turbobrew__ wrote: post #105

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Github is migrating from their old infra to Azure. Doing migrations like that is hard, no matter who you are. And from a business and engineering perspective I think it makes sense to leverage the economies of scale of Azure instead of GitHub running their own boxes.

Anyone being forced to use Azure has, at least temporarily until they can find a new job, lost at life, not necessarily through any fault of their own. The poor souls probably also have to use Teams.

The engineers at github are getting paid $300k/year at SWE3 to do their job. I don’t think they lost at life.

Why bring people down so hard? That is really solid money and you can provide for a family, retire in your 40s, and it is work that does not destroy your body.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by voidhorse »

GaryBluto wrote: post #97
davidsainez wrote: post #71

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Not wanting to review and maintain code that someone didn't even bother to write themselves is childish?

Denying code not on it's merits but it's source is childish.

I think most people are in complete agreement.

What people don't like about LLM PRs is typically:

a. The person proposing the PR usually lacks adequate context and so it makes communication and feedback, which are essential, difficult if not impossible. They cannot even explain the reasoning behind the changes they are proposing, b. The volume/scale is often unreasonable for human reviewed to contend with. c. The PR may not be in response to an issue but just the realization of some "idea" the author or LLM had, making it even harder to contextualize. d. The cost asymmetry, generally speaking is highly unfavorable to the maintainers.

At the moment, it's just that LLM driven PRs have these qualities so frequently that people use LLM bans as a shorthand since writing out a lengthy policy redescrbiing the basic tenets of participation in software development is tedious and shouldn't be necessary, but here we are, in 2025 when everyone has seemingly decided to abandon those principles in favor of lazyily generating endless reams of pointless code just because they can.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by pixelpoet »

tonymet wrote: post #93

Coderberg is nice , but their P80s are terrible. And they are hosted in Germany, which adds a few seconds to every remote command . I wouldn’t move business critical repos there . Everyone loses their mind when GitHub goes down once every 2 years . If codeberg provided SLas , they would probably breach them weekly

> And they are hosted in Germany, which adds a few seconds to every remote command

Except, you know, if you live in Germany. Heaven forbid we get decent ping once in a while :)

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by [deleted] »

shevy-java wrote: post #46
aeonfox wrote: post #25

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They could also just be people with bills to pay who are maybe faced with—by some accounts—a very challenging employment market. Or maybe due to disabilities they find the process of finding new work difficult or impossible.

That is fine, but they adopt or delegate corporate opinions onto others. I feel that if you need to lie to people because of money, your job is not honest. (I don't mean you; I mean people who need to do this because otherwise they may lose their job etc...)

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