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Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by leo_e »

To see this just as a hosting switch misses the bigger picture. This is the logical infrastructure conclusion of Zig's 'Zero Dependency' philosophy.

Zig spent years removing dependencies on the system C compiler (zig cc), removing dependencies on libc, and is currently working to remove the dependency on LLVM (the self-hosted backend).

GitHub was just another dependency.

For a project obsessed with reproducibility and toolchain sovereignty, relying on a single proprietary platform (and its changing ToS/AI policies) was a massive architectural liability. They aren't just moving repos; they are eliminating 'Platform Risk' the same way they eliminated 'Linker Risk'.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by mlugg »

Ohkay wrote: post #73

Codeberg has a yearly fee via euro payment method or manual wire transfer. Membership requires manual approval. Edit: you can register without membership.

This is extremely misleading. "Membership" is about direct contribution to and influence over the non-profit; it'd be somewhat analagous to being a GitHub shareholder. The very first question on Codeberg's FAQ [0] makes this abundantly clear, as does the "Join" page [1]. I don't see any part of the website you could go to to get any other impression.

[0]: https://docs.codeberg.org/getting-started/faq/#what-do-i-nee...

[1]: https://join.codeberg.org/

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by tonymet »

Coderberg is nice , but their P80s are terrible. And they are hosted in Germany, which adds a few seconds to every remote command .

I wouldn’t move business critical repos there .

Everyone loses their mind when GitHub goes down once every 2 years . If codeberg provided SLas , they would probably breach them weekly

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

#94

Post by echelon »

kragen wrote: post #80
munchler wrote: post #19

Calling the people who work on GitHub “losers” is not cool.

I'm not sure that your unsupported assertion represents a substantive contribution to this discussion. Why do you believe it's not cool, munchler?

It's bully behavior.

It reminds me of the creeps in school that punched me, shoved me into lockers, tried to assault me.

I almost killed myself as a kid because of bullies. Some people never grow out of that, it seems.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by johnfn »

> it’s abundantly clear that the talented folks who used to work on the product have moved on to bigger and better things, with the remaining losers eager to inflict some kind of bloated, buggy JavaScript framework on us in the name of progress.

> More importantly, Actions is created by monkeys

This writing really does not reflect well on Zig. If you have technical issues with Github, fine: cite them. But leave ad hominems like "losers" and "monkeys" out of it.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

#96

Post by jdhendrickson »

travisgriggs wrote: post #27

Came hear and read “GitHub isn’t a good guy anymore” (not the first time, and seems to be increasing in frequency). It’s like sourceforge all over again. History rhymes with itself, and enshitification has been added to dictionaries for a good reason. As a once upon a time avid slashdotter, makes me wonder if some day, HN will go the same route.

I don't see this site as being the spiritual successor to /. at all, the audience is much more money focused and much less software focused. I miss /. as a low 5 digit user there.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

#97

Post by GaryBluto »

davidsainez wrote: post #71
GaryBluto wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it really a surprise that the project that declared a blanket ban on LLM-generated code is also emotional and childish in other areas?

Not wanting to review and maintain code that someone didn't even bother to write themselves is childish?

Denying code not on it's merits but it's source is childish.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

#98

Post by AdrienPoupa »

tonymet wrote: post #93

Coderberg is nice , but their P80s are terrible. And they are hosted in Germany, which adds a few seconds to every remote command . I wouldn’t move business critical repos there . Everyone loses their mind when GitHub goes down once every 2 years . If codeberg provided SLas , they would probably breach them weekly

Every 2 years? More like every 2 days for GitHub Actions or Git operations those days :(

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

#99

Post by kragen »

shevy-java wrote: post #54
travisgriggs wrote: post #27

Came hear and read “GitHub isn’t a good guy anymore” (not the first time, and seems to be increasing in frequency). It’s like sourceforge all over again. History rhymes with itself, and enshitification has been added to dictionaries for a good reason. As a once upon a time avid slashdotter, makes me wonder if some day, HN will go the same route.

I am not sure it is like sourceforge. The UI of sourceforge was always bad. Github's UI is quite solid. I actually started to hate gitlab recently because of their UI. I always feel in utter confusion when it comes to gitlab.

Compared to installing Apache, Wiki, Roundup, CVS, and Mailman on your own server, SourceForge's UI was fantastic.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

#100

Post by JuniperMesos »

munchler wrote: post #19

Calling the people who work on GitHub “losers” is not cool.

You know what else isn't cool? Working at GitHub!

More seriously: I probably wouldn't have called every single current employee of GitHub a "loser", but more because I think truly cool people don't define themselves by where they happen to work at any given time. I'm sure the vast majority of people at GitHub are just tech employees trying to earn a living and don't particularly care whether the Zig guy thinks they're cool or not. What actually matters is that GitHub is a big centralized platform run by Microsoft for their own ends, and it's good to be free of it.

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