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Re: Bring bathroom doors back to hotels

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Post by eru »

neutronicus wrote: post #233
eru wrote: post #172

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How does this have anything to do with 'public health'? And almost any regulation gives a (relative) advantage to the people who can afford the lawyers and bureaucrats to furnish the documentation to show that they are in compliance.

The absence of a door strikes some people's sensibilities as mingling the capital-C Clean with the capital-U Unclean. Which, as I think you're hinting, is largely distinct from anybody's actual health

Yes, that's what I think as well.

I'm all in favour of opaque bathroom doors (and none of these stupid vertical slits American have between their public bathroom doors and the walls). But I wouldn't want to pretend it's about hygiene or health.

Re: Bring bathroom doors back to hotels

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Post by eru »

lukeschlather wrote: post #193
eru wrote: post #182

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Have you considered closing the toilet lid?

There was a study which showed closing the lid reduces the acute problem but actually increases dwell time. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/339650907_Real-time...

Well, as long as the closed toilet bowl has time in between to settle, it's all fine. And your hotel toilet isn't exactly a high traffic area.

Re: Bring bathroom doors back to hotels

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Post by gpm »

eru wrote: post #182
cwillu wrote: post #178

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Shit particles are literally blown into the surrounding air when flushing; closing the door and running the fan contains the mess. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet_plume

Have you considered closing the toilet lid?

Generally you would need everyone else to do that for it to help you, which isn't something you control.

Doors are nice from the public health perspective in that people actually do usually close them without even being asked.

Re: Bring bathroom doors back to hotels

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Post by eru »

ssl-3 wrote: post #238
eru wrote: post #179

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How are doors important for hygiene?

In my part of the US, a lot of our "old" houses were built before indoor plumbing. So when the plumbing was installed, obviously some went to the kitchen. And the bathroom, which previously didn't exist, was often an addition to (or a division from) the kitchen -- with a doorway [with a door] betwixt the kitchen and the bathroom -- because that made the plumbing easier. IIRC, that particular feature disqualifies the…

In Singapore (of all places) many apartments have one of their toilets right next to the kitchen. Seems to be fine.

Re: Bring bathroom doors back to hotels

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Post by devilbunny »

neutronicus wrote: post #223
throitallaway wrote: post #34

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How many people consider what a bathroom looks like before booking a hotel room? I can't say I've ever done so.

My wife is keenly interested in whether or not there is a bathtub. Keenly.

Mine is as well. So far the only way I have found to locate such increasingly-rare rooms is booking.com followed by calling the hotel. For all their sins, Booking at least lets you search for hotels that have bathtubs in any rooms at all.

Aside from rinsing off after a pool or ocean swim, or when she is actually dirty (e.g., after yard work), I think I have known her to voluntarily take three or four showers in 25 years together.

Re: Bring bathroom doors back to hotels

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Post by toast0 »

citizenpaul wrote: post #212
majormajor wrote: post #187

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I don't think that adds up. "Staying in a hotel with a romantic partner and/or family" is at least as primary a use case for hotels as "staying in a hotel with a platonic friend" and is still a scenario where you want a door but is NOT a scenario where "just get separate rooms" is a logical conclusion. "Get the hell out of that hotel and complain about it to everyone you know," on the other hand, is. The much more sp…

How do you complain and go to another hotel if every single hotel is owned by four companies that are colluding together to do the same thing. This ignores the very obvious fact that you may not want to search for a hotel at 2AM in a strange city when you are exhausted. Keep making excuses for your masters though, this is the world you live in. Marriot,Hilton,IGT,Hyatt own almost all hotels in any area you want to go…

> Marriot,Hilton,IGT,Hyatt own almost all hotels in any area you want to go to.

Best Western, Choice, Wyndham, IHG (typo?), Accor, Blackstone (Motel6), Radisson, Red Lion, Red Roof. Etc. There's lots of choices.

Many (most?) hotels are franchises and the name on the hotel can change. I haven't run into a hotel with no bathroom door yet, but I only have 2-3 stays a year and one is usually in the same hotel every year. I have noticed housekeeping creeping back up to mostly every day though.

Re: Bring bathroom doors back to hotels

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Post by inopinatus »

WheatMillington wrote: post #220
citizenpaul wrote: post #212

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How do you complain and go to another hotel if every single hotel is owned by four companies that are colluding together to do the same thing. This ignores the very obvious fact that you may not want to search for a hotel at 2AM in a strange city when you are exhausted. Keep making excuses for your masters though, this is the world you live in. Marriot,Hilton,IGT,Hyatt own almost all hotels in any area you want to go…

It's hard to understand what you want here... No one is making excuses for the hotels? Literally "don't stay there, go somewhere else, and tell everyone you know" is as much power as an individual can possibly muster in this situation. Why do you think this is "making excuses for your masters"? What is your solution?

The mistake is assuming we have to act as individuals.

Re: Bring bathroom doors back to hotels

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Post by tbrownaw »

Loughla wrote: post #197
thaumasiotes wrote: post #183

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In Hyperion , the character Martin Silenus is rich enough that he lives in a novelty palace where all the rooms are connected by teleporters. As a joke, the bathroom is a wallless raft on an ocean world. Outside of the realm of science fiction, my sister followed a TV show for a while that was basically a set of advertisements for a modular home company. One episode featured the installation of a small home on a remo…

We installed an outdoor shower at our house. There's nothing as nice as a cold shower outdoors on a really hot day. It feels so luxurious that I can pretend I'm a rich person instead of lower- to mid-middle class. We live way out in the boonies, so that helps.

Also really good for a house that has beach access.

Re: Bring bathroom doors back to hotels

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Post by Nextgrid »

lawlessone wrote: post #194
eru wrote: post #165

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> [...] it's a significant hygiene issue. How so?

who wants to sleep in a room full of shower steam?

If there is adequate ventilation in the bathroom, most of the steam/moisture will go there. If there isn't, a door won't save you much, since as soon as you open it all the built-up steam is going to escape in the room anyway. Air conditioning generally takes care of it if it does happen though.
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