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Re: Bring bathroom doors back to hotels

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Post by refulgentis »

fluoridation wrote: post #131
refulgentis wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Extractor, what I’d call a bathroom fan, fair that effectively stops airflow, I’ll go with “close enough to negative pressure for civvies that they fool themselves” (I.e. ain’t actual negative pressure like a cdc lab) A door stops airflow? No.

>A door stops airflow? No. I mean, it literally does. Put something that smokes in a bathroom, open the window, close the door, and caulk the gaps. See how much smoke phases through the door.

I forgot HN isn’t exactly the demographic that tries this and finds out exactly how well it works. I guess for this demographic, I’d suggest telling your tenants it’s okay to smoke in the bathroom as long as the door is closed and the fan is on.

Re: Bring bathroom doors back to hotels

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Post by aaomidi »

WheatMillington wrote: post #220
citizenpaul wrote: post #212

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How do you complain and go to another hotel if every single hotel is owned by four companies that are colluding together to do the same thing. This ignores the very obvious fact that you may not want to search for a hotel at 2AM in a strange city when you are exhausted. Keep making excuses for your masters though, this is the world you live in. Marriot,Hilton,IGT,Hyatt own almost all hotels in any area you want to go…

It's hard to understand what you want here... No one is making excuses for the hotels? Literally "don't stay there, go somewhere else, and tell everyone you know" is as much power as an individual can possibly muster in this situation. Why do you think this is "making excuses for your masters"? What is your solution?

Regulation is when individual action isn’t enough.

Regulation is a form of collective action.

Re: Bring bathroom doors back to hotels

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Post by neutronicus »

eru wrote: post #172
gpm wrote: post #152

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I'm gonna go ahead and suggest that the "bathrooms must have doors" public health regulation is unlikely to increase any moats.

How does this have anything to do with 'public health'? And almost any regulation gives a (relative) advantage to the people who can afford the lawyers and bureaucrats to furnish the documentation to show that they are in compliance.

The absence of a door strikes some people's sensibilities as mingling the capital-C Clean with the capital-U Unclean.

Which, as I think you're hinting, is largely distinct from anybody's actual health

Re: Bring bathroom doors back to hotels

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Post by ghaff »

michaelt wrote: post #161
stickfigure wrote: post #61

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I watched this and it doesn't seem like anti-patterns to me? I spend more time in hotels than most and ironing boards, closets, minibars, and "bigger rooms" are not things I care about. I don't hang out in the room; it's a box I enter to shower and sleep.

It depends on the market you're aiming for. A younger, lone traveller staying 2-3 nights is probably going to be out doing things in the day, and in the evening. And they won't have much luggage either. Elderly travellers might not have the same level of energy; they might prefer to spend a few hours quietly relaxing with a book. And they might want an armchair per person, rather than sitting on the bed to read. Busi…

For me, in addition to a clean comfortable bed, and a good shower (I don't like a deep bathtub I need to step into), I like having a desk and at least a comfortable chair (ideally a sofa).

Of course, now we're getting into a fair fit of space in a dense city.

Re: Bring bathroom doors back to hotels

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Post by snypher »

Brian_K_White wrote: post #87
op00to wrote: post #55

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People make noise when they piss and shit. It’s not scandalous.

Some people make noise when they eat with their mouth open. It's not scandalous, it's just ignorant and gross. It's always an utter clod that is so unaware of themselves just smucking and squelching away on their open mouth full of gloopy donut muck. It's not a virtue to be so unselfcounscious. It's not about being ashamed or inhibited or in pathological denial of biological realities. It's about being fucking minima…

It would be virtuous to not judge others based on some small thing they do that annoys you, just as you do things that annoy others.

Re: Bring bathroom doors back to hotels

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Post by SoftTalker »

citizenpaul wrote: post #212
majormajor wrote: post #187

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I don't think that adds up. "Staying in a hotel with a romantic partner and/or family" is at least as primary a use case for hotels as "staying in a hotel with a platonic friend" and is still a scenario where you want a door but is NOT a scenario where "just get separate rooms" is a logical conclusion. "Get the hell out of that hotel and complain about it to everyone you know," on the other hand, is. The much more sp…

How do you complain and go to another hotel if every single hotel is owned by four companies that are colluding together to do the same thing. This ignores the very obvious fact that you may not want to search for a hotel at 2AM in a strange city when you are exhausted. Keep making excuses for your masters though, this is the world you live in. Marriot,Hilton,IGT,Hyatt own almost all hotels in any area you want to go…

I stay at Hilton properties whenever I can and they always seem to allow filters for number of beds. Not sure about bathroom doors though.

Re: Bring bathroom doors back to hotels

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Post by corywright »

meisel wrote: post #98

While we’re at it, bring back shower doors/curtains. It’s such a pain having this huge puddle outside the shower just because they decided it shouldn’t have one. It’s not so common to be missing one in US hotels, but it’s common internationally. Edit: apparently the virus has spread, and some US hotels now don’t have them

This is one reason I'm staying at more Hilton hotels than Marriott brands these days. Having a wet bathroom floor is high on my list of pet peeves, enough so that I'll abandon lifetime elite status with Marriott to stay at hotels with doors on the showers.

Re: Bring bathroom doors back to hotels

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Post by ssl-3 »

eru wrote: post #179
mitthrowaway2 wrote: post #81

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I recently stayed at a hotel in San Francisco that had no bathroom door. I'd even upgraded to the queen size room specifically because their layout map showed a door while the smaller rooms did not. I was pretty annoyed by that. (Edit: Despite being a single traveller. I think doors are important for hygiene). Happy to see someone is trying to fix this trend.

How are doors important for hygiene?

In my part of the US, a lot of our "old" houses were built before indoor plumbing.

So when the plumbing was installed, obviously some went to the kitchen. And the bathroom, which previously didn't exist, was often an addition to (or a division from) the kitchen -- with a doorway [with a door] betwixt the kitchen and the bathroom -- because that made the plumbing easier.

IIRC, that particular feature disqualifies the home for financing with both the VA and with HUD for reasons of hygiene.

So by extension: According to VA and HUD, hygiene requires at least one door and at least one additional room of separation between the place where you shit and the place where you eat.

Re: Bring bathroom doors back to hotels

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Post by venturecruelty »

citizenpaul wrote: post #212
majormajor wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think that adds up. "Staying in a hotel with a romantic partner and/or family" is at least as primary a use case for hotels as "staying in a hotel with a platonic friend" and is still a scenario where you want a door but is NOT a scenario where "just get separate rooms" is a logical conclusion. "Get the hell out of that hotel and complain about it to everyone you know," on the other hand, is. The much more sp…

How do you complain and go to another hotel if every single hotel is owned by four companies that are colluding together to do the same thing. This ignores the very obvious fact that you may not want to search for a hotel at 2AM in a strange city when you are exhausted. Keep making excuses for your masters though, this is the world you live in. Marriot,Hilton,IGT,Hyatt own almost all hotels in any area you want to go…

Well, since "laws" are outside the current Overton window, we could always do a hotel startup that becomes worse than the hotels we're trying to replace within ten years or so.

Re: Bring bathroom doors back to hotels

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Post by ghaff »

DaSHacka wrote: post #224
ghaff wrote: post #10

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I've seen it in the US in smaller dense urban rooms and it's honestly something I've never thought about. It's honestly something it would never occur to me to write a blog post about. But I guess it's one of those things that some people are sensitive about.

I assume you must be a solo traveler?

Sometimes yes. Sometimes no. Not something that's ever come up as an issue.
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