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In Europe, Speed Cameras Meet Their Technological Match

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Re: In Europe, Speed Cameras Meet Their Technological Match

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What do you do when cameras start calculating the average speed over some distance, rather than doing single-spot measurements? :)

The app from blitzer.de (called CamSam in the various app stores) lets you know if there is a section control ahead. If you're still speeding, that's your own fault, I guess.

It's also planned to display the average speed during a section control, but that is not part yet of the current version, I believe.

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post #13

The thing with these systems is when you get caught, you don't pay a simple fine, you just loose your driving license. The journalists should inform themselves better, as European I doubt anyone is easily left of the hook if caught during a police control using such device.

In Switzerland, for example, you will lose the device. But in Germany, apps on smartphones or tablet PCs are considered legal. Only devices whose sole purpose is warning of speed cameras, are banned.

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Not all cameras are static in europe, this is were these type of systems fall down. Having a subscription to some service that lists were they are and warns you and is updated by you or somebody else who pays a subscription is ok if you like to speed about on dynamic routes. Though anybody who travels the sameish journey a few times will soon know were and when to be mindful of traffic camera's. I often see policemen…

The number of users is large enough now that even mobile speed cameras are now thoroughly reported for all but the really sparsely inhabited areas.

Re: In Europe, Speed Cameras Meet Their Technological Match

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post #13

The thing with these systems is when you get caught, you don't pay a simple fine, you just loose your driving license. The journalists should inform themselves better, as European I doubt anyone is easily left of the hook if caught during a police control using such device.

There is a system in France called Coyote which is completely legal and works extremely well. It comes with an inbuilt database of static speed traps but the killer feature is a button that each unit has which you press if you pass a mobile speed trap. The device then sends the co-ords via the GSM network back to Coyote head quarters who then relay the info to every other Coyote user in real time. It's really effective.

Site is here: http://www.moncoyote.com/

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Coyote is a nice French startup success story, also an embedded hardware success, similar to Parrot.

I'm a bit disappointed that it fits the typical parisian pattern of elder, management consultants founders. No twenty-something founders changing the world here!

Re: In Europe, Speed Cameras Meet Their Technological Match

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, you can easily show those jerks, simply by respecting the speed limit! win for you, win for the community!

You can easily show those jerks by driving at high speed and braking like an idiot right before you hit a speed trap. The reason the Netherlands employs so many mobile speed traps is because people quickly learn where the fixed speed traps are and simply ignore the speed limits in between, or try to "make up for time lost by having to brake for a speed trap" (yes, I've heard and seen plenty of people do this). This i…

wow, rly? I remember people slowing down to 130+10 the moment you crossed the german-dutch border. you got some crazy fines in there, don't you?

Re: In Europe, Speed Cameras Meet Their Technological Match

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, you can easily show those jerks, simply by respecting the speed limit! win for you, win for the community!

You can easily show those jerks by driving at high speed and braking like an idiot right before you hit a speed trap. The reason the Netherlands employs so many mobile speed traps is because people quickly learn where the fixed speed traps are and simply ignore the speed limits in between, or try to "make up for time lost by having to brake for a speed trap" (yes, I've heard and seen plenty of people do this). This i…

Mobile speed cameras that are announced on radio ...

Besides, there are still quite a few fixed speed cameras in NL AND some "trajectcontrol" camera (as mentioned by a previous poster). I actually find the latter one the only one worth it, because then you are sure that people slow down for a longer period.

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post #24
post #13

The thing with these systems is when you get caught, you don't pay a simple fine, you just loose your driving license. The journalists should inform themselves better, as European I doubt anyone is easily left of the hook if caught during a police control using such device.

There is a system in France called Coyote which is completely legal and works extremely well. It comes with an inbuilt database of static speed traps but the killer feature is a button that each unit has which you press if you pass a mobile speed trap. The device then sends the co-ords via the GSM network back to Coyote head quarters who then relay the info to every other Coyote user in real time. It's really effecti…

Yeah although they had to fight a bit. Because it became illegal to announce speed cameras, but they have the right to announce "dangerous zones" ...

Re: In Europe, Speed Cameras Meet Their Technological Match

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post #12
post #10

What do you do when cameras start calculating the average speed over some distance, rather than doing single-spot measurements? :)

This has been tried in Sweden, and IIRC the court said that since it can't be proven who drove the car between the cameras it's not possible to fine the driver.

Bah, just fine the car owner, it's easy enough for him to have control of his vehicle, unless he reported it as stolen.

This isn't a murder trial, it's a minor infraction, like a parking ticket.

Re: In Europe, Speed Cameras Meet Their Technological Match

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post #15
post #13

The thing with these systems is when you get caught, you don't pay a simple fine, you just loose your driving license. The journalists should inform themselves better, as European I doubt anyone is easily left of the hook if caught during a police control using such device.

In what country do you loose your license? Certanly not in all eu countries.

In teh UK if you have to may points on your licence you lose it and if you grossly break the sped limit you get an imediate ban.

I know some on who has his 150+ speeding summons framed - he uesed to tune Pro racing bikes and was caught testing one late at night.

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