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I don't care how well your "AI" works

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Re: I don't care how well your "AI" works

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Post by owenthejumper »

aforwardslash wrote: post #4

Everytime I read one of these "I don't use AI" posts, the content is either "my code is handcrafted in a mountain spring and blessed by the universe itself, so no AI can match it", or "everything different from what I do is technofascism or ". Maybe Im missing something, but tech is controlled by a handful of companies - always have been; and sometimes code is just code, and AI is just a tool. What am I missing?

You are not missing much. Yes there will be situations where AI won’t be helpful, but that’s not a majority

Used right, Claude Code is actually very impressive. You just have to already be a programmer to use it right - divide the problem into small chunks yourself, instruct it to work on the small chunks.

Second example - there is a certain expectation of language in American professional communication. As a non native speaker I can tell you that not following that expectation has real impact on a career. AI has been transformational, writing an email myself and asking it to ‘make this into American professional english’

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Post by technothrasher »

aforwardslash wrote: post #4

Everytime I read one of these "I don't use AI" posts, the content is either "my code is handcrafted in a mountain spring and blessed by the universe itself, so no AI can match it", or "everything different from what I do is technofascism or ". Maybe Im missing something, but tech is controlled by a handful of companies - always have been; and sometimes code is just code, and AI is just a tool. What am I missing?

> What am I missing?

The youthful desire to rage against the machine?

Re: I don't care how well your "AI" works

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Post by nullbyte808 »

As a crappy programmer I love AI! Right now I'm focusing on building up my Math knowledge, general CS knowledge and ML knowledge. In the future, knowing how to read code and understanding it may be more important than writing it.

I think its amazing what giant vector matrices can do with a little code.

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Post by countWSS »

shlip wrote: post #2

> AI systems exist to reinforce and strengthen existing structures of power and violence. Exactly. You can see that with the proliferation of chickenized reverse centaurs[1] in all kinds of jobs. Getting rid of the free-willed human in the loop is the aim now that bosses/stakeholders have seen the light. [1] https://pluralistic.net/2022/04/17/revenge-of-the-chickenize...

Sounds like Manna control system: https://marshallbrain.com/manna

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Post by ToucanLoucan »

raincole wrote: post #10

> LLM brainworm is able to eat itself even into progressive hacker circles What a loaded sentence lol. Implying being a hacker has some correlation with being progressive. And implying somehow anti-AI is progressive. > AI systems being egregiously resource intensive is not a side effect — it’s the point. Really? So we're not going to see AI users celebrating over how much less power DeepSeek used, right? Anyway guess…

Pro/regressive are terms that are highly contextual. Progress for progress’ sake alone can move anything forward. I would argue the progression of the attention economy has been extremely negative for most of the human race, yet that is “progressing.”

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Post by Glemkloksdjf »

Its ignorant. Thats what it is.

The big tech will build out compute in a never seen speed and we will reach 2e29 Flops faster than ever.

Big tech is competing with each other and they are the ones with the real money in our capitalistic world but even if they would find some slow down between each others, countries are also now competing.

In the next 4 years and the massive build out of compute, we will see a lot clearer how the progress will go.

And either we hit obvous limitations or not.

If we will not see an obvious limitation, fionas opinion will have 0 relevance.

The best chance for everyone is to keep a very very close eye on AI to either make the right decisions (not buying that house with a line of credit; creating your own product a lot faster thanks to ai, ...) or be aware what is coming.

Thanks for the fish and enjoy the ride.

Re: I don't care how well your "AI" works

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Post by embedding-shape »

> And yeah, I get it. We programmers are currently living through the devaluation of our craft, in a way and rate we never anticipated possible.

I'm a programmer, been coding professionally for 10 something years, and coding for myself longer than that.

What are they talking about? What is this "devaluation"? I'm getting paid more than ever for a job I feel like I almost shouldn't get paid for (I'm just having fun), and programmers should be some of the most worry-free individuals on this planet, the job is easy, well-paid, not a lot of health drawbacks if you have a proper setup and relatively easy to find a new job when you need it (granted, the US seems to struggle with that specific point as of late, yet it remains true in the rest of the world).

And now, we're having a huge explosion of tools for developers, to build software that has to be maintained by developers, made by developers for developers.

If anything, it seems like Balmers plea of "Developers, developers, developers" has came true, and if there will be one profession left in 100 year when AI does everything for us (if the vibers are to be believed), then that'd probably be software developers and machine learning experts.

What exactly is being de-valuated for a profession that seems to be continuously growing and been doing so for at least 20 years?

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