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AWS is 10x slower than a dedicated server for the same price [video]

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Re: AWS is 10x slower than a dedicated server for the same price [video]

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Post by whstl »

hshdhdhj4444 wrote: post #4
typpilol wrote: post #2

I hate these comparisons because it's not apples to apples. The entire point of AWS is so you don't have to get a dedicated server. It's infra as a service.

I don’t understand your complaint. The point of having a private chef is so you don’t have to cook food by yourself. It’s still extremely useful to know if the private chef is cheaper or more expensive than cooking by yourself and by how much, so you can make a decision more aware of the trade offs involved.

The problem with this discussion is that a lot of people on these threads work as overpaid assistants to the one private chef, but also have never cooked at home.

Translating:

A lot of people work with AWS, are making bank, and are terrified of their skill set being made obsolete.

They also have no idea what it means to use a dedicated server.

That’s why we get the same tired arguments and assumptions (such as the belief that bare-metal means “server room here in the office”) in every discussion.

Re: AWS is 10x slower than a dedicated server for the same price [video]

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Post by littlestymaar »

typpilol wrote: post #2

I hate these comparisons because it's not apples to apples. The entire point of AWS is so you don't have to get a dedicated server. It's infra as a service.

> The entire point of AWS is so you don't have to get a dedicated server.

Yet every company I've worked for still used at least a bunch of AWS VPS exactly as they would have used dedicated servers, just for ten times the cost.

Re: AWS is 10x slower than a dedicated server for the same price [video]

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Post by _nhh »

hshdhdhj4444 wrote: post #4
typpilol wrote: post #2

I hate these comparisons because it's not apples to apples. The entire point of AWS is so you don't have to get a dedicated server. It's infra as a service.

I don’t understand your complaint. The point of having a private chef is so you don’t have to cook food by yourself. It’s still extremely useful to know if the private chef is cheaper or more expensive than cooking by yourself and by how much, so you can make a decision more aware of the trade offs involved.

Havibg a private chef is more like havibg hired people to manage your own hardware. Doordash is aws

Re: AWS is 10x slower than a dedicated server for the same price [video]

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Post by raverbashing »

troupo wrote: post #5
hshdhdhj4444 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t understand your complaint. The point of having a private chef is so you don’t have to cook food by yourself. It’s still extremely useful to know if the private chef is cheaper or more expensive than cooking by yourself and by how much, so you can make a decision more aware of the trade offs involved.

My feeling is that a more apt comparison would be "cooking yourself vs. ordering Doordash all the time" (aka "a taxi for your burrito)

Yes

Getting a chef would be hiring your own devops team

But the point of AWS is that you can buy these services with very fine granularity

Re: AWS is 10x slower than a dedicated server for the same price [video]

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Post by 3ds »

Why is this a video? I'm not going to watch it. I will read the AI summary of the transcript though:

The video argues that AWS is dramatically overpriced and underpowered compared to cheap VPS or dedicated servers. Using Sysbench benchmarks, the creator shows that a low-cost VPS outperforms AWS EC2 and ECS by large margins (EC2 has ~20% of the VPS’s CPU performance while costing 3× more; ECS costs 6× more with only modest improvements). ECS setup is also complicated and inconsistent. Dedicated servers offer about 10× the performance of similarly priced AWS options. The conclusion: most apps don’t need cloud-scale architecture, and cloud dominance comes from marketing—not superior value or performance.

Re: AWS is 10x slower than a dedicated server for the same price [video]

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Post by boxed »

flibble wrote: post #10

I do like watching these comparisons however it reminds me of a conversation I had recently with my 10 year old. Son: Why does the croissant cost €2.80 here while it's only €0.45 in Lidl? Who would buy that? Me: You're not paying for the croissant, you're paying for the staff to give it to you, for the warm café, for the tables to be cleaned and for the seat to sit on.

AWS feels more like Lidl though...

Re: AWS is 10x slower than a dedicated server for the same price [video]

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Post by ElFitz »

whstl wrote: post #11
hshdhdhj4444 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t understand your complaint. The point of having a private chef is so you don’t have to cook food by yourself. It’s still extremely useful to know if the private chef is cheaper or more expensive than cooking by yourself and by how much, so you can make a decision more aware of the trade offs involved.

The problem with this discussion is that a lot of people on these threads work as overpaid assistants to the one private chef, but also have never cooked at home. Translating: A lot of people work with AWS, are making bank, and are terrified of their skill set being made obsolete. They also have no idea what it means to use a dedicated server. That’s why we get the same tired arguments and assumptions (such as the be…

> such as the belief that bare-metal means “server room here in the office”

I remember the day I discovered some companies, and not just tech ones (Walmart, UPS, Toyota,…) actually own, operate, and use their own datacenters.

And there companies out there specialized in planning and building datacenters for them.

I mean, it’s kind of obvious. But it made me realize at how small a scale I both thought and operated.

Re: AWS is 10x slower than a dedicated server for the same price [video]

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Post by whstl »

flibble wrote: post #10

I do like watching these comparisons however it reminds me of a conversation I had recently with my 10 year old. Son: Why does the croissant cost €2.80 here while it's only €0.45 in Lidl? Who would buy that? Me: You're not paying for the croissant, you're paying for the staff to give it to you, for the warm café, for the tables to be cleaned and for the seat to sit on.

The people cleaning and keeping the café warm are your Ops team.

AWS is just an extremely expensive Lidl.

EDIT: autocorrect typo, coffee to café

Re: AWS is 10x slower than a dedicated server for the same price [video]

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Post by dainiusse »

danpalmer wrote: post #3

S3 is also 10x more expensive than this single consumer grade second hand hard drive I have. Managed NAT gateways are also 10000x more expensive than my router. This is a boring argument that has been done to death.

"AWS inflation"
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