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Windows GUI – Good, Bad and Pretty Ugly (2023)

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Re: Windows GUI – Good, Bad and Pretty Ugly (2023)

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Whatever product manager team decided to jump into React Native with both feet for the Windows experience needs to be ejected from the industry permanently. Think of how many thousands of human hours per day are now spent waiting on React Native jank, all in order to save the Windows developers from having to program in Windows using Microsoft products.

Most likely saving Windows developers from learning programming. They are just javascript monkeys because that is what Microsoft is hiring these days and you can't trust monkeys with native C++. The thing would leak memory and explode immediately if those idiots tried to write native code. So in the name of hiring cheap idiots that can't program we all have to put up with this slow, bloated garbage. There is no unive…

> So in the name of hiring cheap idiots that can't program we all have to put up with this slow, bloated garbage.

Irony is they're not cheap hires, either.

Re: Windows GUI – Good, Bad and Pretty Ugly (2023)

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I was working in customer support for one of the first ISPs in my country when the switch from Windows 3.1 to Windows 95 happened.

Windows 95 was a massive jump in usability.

Regular people simply do no understand the overlapping windows metaphor. When a windows disappears behind another they are often completely helpless. The taskbar was a life saver.

Re: Windows GUI – Good, Bad and Pretty Ugly (2023)

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But this article is only grading the styling of the OS GUI elements, not the functionality (or lack thereof) of the OS itself.

Windows 11 is far from the best at that though. It doesn’t even look good. I know taste is subjective, but a better comparison is the contemporaries of the time or at least taking a step back to consider the entire aesthetic. If so, ironically, I think Vista should win.

Taste is objective. It is only subjective among the tasteless.

The OS has a purpose to be efficient and pleasant - anything that interferes with either is not a matter of taste, but a matter of poor execution.

Sure we have preferences, but truly beautiful things are hard to consider they are only so due to a matter of preference, and not objectivity.

Re: Windows GUI – Good, Bad and Pretty Ugly (2023)

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When you hit print screen, it takes a screenshot, waits a blatantly visible number of frames while you type more letters or stuff keeps moving on screen, and then eventually rewinds time by overlaying the now outdated screenshot for you to select a target area Pressing escape can sometimes cancel out of this overlay (in case you bumped print screen by accident). But sometimes it doesn’t, because the full screen overl…

On my very rasonably spec'd laptop it often takes 20 seconds for the snipping tool selection to pop up. Video recording is very nice though, definitely my favorite feature. New Notepad had a broken typematic that took them 2 years to fix, but they added Copilot at the same patch. Resizing its window still rapidly still flickers and can max the CPU. If you're using labels in the taskbar the buttons aren't fixed width,…

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Re: Windows GUI – Good, Bad and Pretty Ugly (2023)

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> My start menu doesn’t have ads, it really isn’t hard to manage that sort of thing. I don't care. It is completely unacceptable to have ads in a product I paid them for . It doesn't matter how easy it is to remove, that doesn't fly. You act like people are hating on Win11 for no reason, but truthfully you're just ignoring the reasons to hate it.

I haven’t given Microsoft a dime since Windows 7. Users who buy a computer have the OS preinstalled. Millions of people never activate it. The product is effectively free. It’s a commercial OS but people can’t get over it. There isn’t a single commercial OS out there that doesn’t try to sell you something at some point. Maybe that is unacceptable to you and I respect you for that. But it’s a commercial OS and always…

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Re: Windows GUI – Good, Bad and Pretty Ugly (2023)

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Win2k was one of my favorite OSes of all time... I know there were a lot of security holes in the way some things were done, but it all just mostly fit well together in a relatively consistent way. The last version of windows with nearly this level of consistency. LiteStep on Win2K was amazingly good. XP really looked like a Fisher Price toy... I liked the Media Center theme (as well as derivatives) so much more as p…

I loved how consistent it was. Just peak Microsoft UI for me. Don’t know what happened after that but it all went to hell.

Re: Windows GUI – Good, Bad and Pretty Ugly (2023)

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One underappreciated thing about Windows 8 is that even if the start menu was ugly and blocked the entire screen, you could press the windows key, immediately start typing, and then press enter to somewhat deterministically pick the top app. This made it feel quite fast. Now on more recent windows editions, I find that I often need to wait for the menu to visually appear before it will accept any keyboard input, and…

> One underappreciated thing about Windows 8 is that even if the start menu was ugly and blocked the entire screen, you could press the windows key, immediately start typing, and then press enter to somewhat deterministically pick the top app. This made it feel quite fast. Decent operating systems support this, and have for decades. macOS has the spotlight search (cmd-space), and most Linux DEs have some form of it t…

microsoft powertoys has this feature
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